January 2017 - tlhIngan-Hol

'InHom ('ay' wa')
by Michael Roney, Jr. 10 Jan '17

10 Jan '17

ben law', loD tu'lu'. be'nal ghaj loD. yatlhlaHbe' be'nal. QorghwaghDaq ghaHtaHvIS be'nal; Du'Hom leghlaH. Du'Hom 'IH. yav vel tI. naH pov law' Hoch pov puS. Du'Hom Dech chevwI' tlhoy'. Du'Hom ghaj 'IDnar pIn'a'. Hoch ghIj 'IDnar pIn'a'. Du'Hom leghtaHvIS be'nal; DIghna' por tu'. DeH. baQ. SuD. neH. wa'maH cha' pemmey wa'maH cha' rammey je, por neH. chabalHom chabal chabal'a' neHtaH. qurchoH. DIghna' por ghajlaHbe'. net Sov pujchoH. chISchoH. 'ItchoH. bIt loD. ghel: <nuqneH, be'nalwI'?> jang: <DIghna' porvam vISoplaHchughbe', vaj jIHegh.> be'nalDaj SaH loD. Qub loD: <Hegh be'nalwI' vIneHbe'. DIghna' por vISuqqang.> choS, tlhoy' toS. nom DIghna' por Suq. be'nalDaj nob. por mIQ be'nal. Sop. 'ey! 'ach tlhoy DIghna' por tIv. wa'leS, DIghna' por neHtaH. vaj choS, tlhoy' toSqa'. DIghna' por Suq. ngugh 'IDnar pIn'a' legh. ghIj. jatlh 'IDnar pIn'a': <nIHwI'! DIghna' por DanIH. qabIj.> jang loD: <pung! be'nalwI'vaD 'oH. DIghna' por SopnIS. neHqu'. por Supbe'chugh, Hegh.> jang 'IDnar pIn'a': <bIvItchugh; DIghna' por Daghaj. 'ach ghubDaQlI' DanobnIS. puq vIQorgh. SoS jIDa.> lay' loD. ~naHQun

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Klingon Word of the Day: wa' rutlh qam Do Duj
by qurgh＠wizage.net 10 Jan '17

10 Jan '17

Klingon Word of the Day for Tuesday, January 10, 2017 Klingon word: wa' rutlh qam Do Duj Part of speech: noun Definition: unicycle Source: qepHom 2016 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] 'InHom ('ay' wa')
by Michael Roney, Jr. 09 Jan '17

09 Jan '17

On January 9, 2017, at 09:48, SuStel <sustel(a)trimboli.name> wrote: >majQa'! pablIj lughmoHlu' DaneH'a'? HISlaH >qatlh loD ghaH loD'e' 'ach be'nal ghaH be''e'? 'e' lo' Hal lut. ~naHQun Sent from my Fire Phone 🔥

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Klingon Word of the Day: 'eb
by qurgh＠wizage.net 09 Jan '17

09 Jan '17

Klingon Word of the Day for Monday, January 09, 2017 Klingon word: 'eb Part of speech: noun Definition: opportunity, chance, opening Source: KGT This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Drafting Klingon press statement re Axanar lawsuit for LCS
by Sai 08 Jan '17

08 Jan '17

Hello all. You are probably aware by now of the LCS' amicus brief about copyrightability of the Klingon language in the Paramount v Axanar case: <http://conlang.org/axanar> I'm drafting a press statement summarizing our involvement in the case, its impact, the change in Paramount's position, why we used pIqaD and humor in the brief, etc. I would like to start the statement with a part in Klingon, saying something to the effect of the following: > Klingon is a rich language that cannot be controlled by IP law. We are glad that Paramount has, for now, backed down from claiming that speaking Klingon, by itself, is punishable in court. Paramount overreached; we successfully responded. It does NOT need to be tied to the English source (though I'll need a backtranslation); I simply want it to convey the basic ideas. This should be on the interpretation end of the scale, not the 1:1 equivalence end, and I'm happy to have it changed to fit what would work better in Klingon, use a Klingon pun, etc. Ideally, it would: * be done by end of day today (Pacific time) * use some non-TKD words that are community-developed and -accepted * use legal terms (like IP law or copyright) translated such that they'd pass as reasonable to the community * be about a paragraph long A paragraph is long enough to prove that Klingon is not just for random one-off phrases, while being short enough that it is likely to be quoted. This press release is likely to get very widely publicized, and I would like the Klingon paragraph to be the leading summary. The point of using Klingon in the press statement is to demonstrate by example that it can be used to talk about things that are not merely "describing life for a space-faring warrior race of aliens, or satirizing Star Trek fans" — like the above. If you're willing to help, please email me offlist, preferably with your Google account email (if you have one), since the draft is in a google doc. It would also help to IM me directly; see accounts @ <https://s.ai/contact>. I'm happy to give credit — or not — as preferred. Separately from the above, if any of you have questions about the case or our involvement in it, or about the LCS itself, I'd be happy to answer them. As I hope you understand, the amount that we are able to reach out about legal filings before they're actually submitted in court is very limited. The same goes for any legal strategy, decisions, etc. There are issues of privilege, timing, and possible conflicts of interest. We did not want to put KLI in a problematic position with Paramount by being directly involved in our amicus curiae brief opposing them, when KLI has an existing working arrangement that has avoided it being an issue. The translations in the first brief (the actual amicus) were done by our lawyers, mainly using Bing. Yes, we know they're not good; unfortunately, timing and the need to keep it within privilege prevented a better review. However, the fact that one can comment on the translations being wrong does go to prove the point that Klingon is a real language. The translations in reply on the renewal motion were done first by the same method, then reviewed by Tony Harris and Joey Windsor. If there are any issues in the future where our help would be useful, please get in touch. <lcs(a)conlang.org> should work as a long-term primary contact for most things. For things related to any legal issues, including the Axanar case, <press(a)conlang.org> is a better contact, as I receive press@ (but not lcs@) email, and am the main person within LCS who handles such things (short of actual legal advice or representation). Sincerely, Sai

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Klingon Word of the Day: po'lISqa'
by qurgh＠wizage.net 08 Jan '17

08 Jan '17

Klingon Word of the Day for Sunday, January 08, 2017 Klingon word: po'lISqa' Part of speech: noun Definition: Poland Source: qepHom 2016 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: paq Duj
by qurgh＠wizage.net 07 Jan '17

07 Jan '17

Klingon Word of the Day for Saturday, January 07, 2017 Klingon word: paq Duj Part of speech: noun Definition: bookmobile Source: qepHom 2016 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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General Advice
by Juliana Bukoski 06 Jan '17

06 Jan '17

Hi everyone, What with it being the new year, I am rededicating myself to studying Klingon, and I thought it might be a good idea to ask for advice from the experts. Last semester I was mostly just memorizing vocab and writing sentences (until complex analysis got hard and Klingon fell by the wayside). Anyway, my plan is to go back to vocab and sentences, keep listening to the audio books (the Klingon Way and the one for tourists), and maybe read the Klingon Christmas Carol and Hamlet, which I just got for Christmas. Is there any other good way to study that I am missing? In particular, is there anywhere I can search for answers to grammar questions that may have been previously discussed on this email list or some other list? I don't really like asking questions here because I feel like you've probably answered them a million times already. Thanks, Juliana

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Thror pu'jIn
by SuStel 06 Jan '17

06 Jan '17

SabelmoHmeH Thror pu'jIn <http://trimboli.name/thror_pu%27jIn.jpg> vImuch! -- SuStel http://trimboli.name

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More paq'batlh
by Brian Cote 06 Jan '17

06 Jan '17

Hello. I have a couple quick questions about a passage from the paq'batlh. {tlhIngan wo' nur ghob je HoSmoH quvvam che'DI' molor nur ghob je pujchoHpu'} With it, I restore pride and values Of the Klingon Empire, for under Molor, They have grown weak and faint. (paq'raD 16:7-9) Shouldn't the third line read: che'DI' molor, pujchoHpu' nur ghob je Or am I missing something? And a quick time question. In the third sentence, this particular combination of {DI'-choH-pu'} means that in the time span of Molor's reign, the weakening of {nur} and {ghob} started and then finished, correct? If so, I find this particular usage of grammar very cool. QImSIr

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