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muvtay
by Lieven L. Litaer 25 Jul '24

25 Jul '24

Hello, I just saw that {muvtay} appeared with {nentay} in the addendum of TKD. But I couldn't find any "initiation rite" in Star Trek. Am I missing something? -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" https://tlhInganHol.com https://klingon.wiki/Word/Muvtay

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new word: {tlhI'}
by Lieven L. Litaer 25 Jul '24

25 Jul '24

I am currntly working on a kind of exercise book. THe german version has been published, the English version will appear soon, but not before the qep'a'. The contents of the story is a young woman going to a convention. She gets to a situation the get an actor give an autograph. I learned from Maltz that one does not use {qI'} (sign a treaty) for that. Instead, use {tlhI'} "sign, autograph" (verb and noun) Quote from Marc Okrand: ------------------- {qI’} is a verb meaning “sign” as when signing a treaty, contract, loan agreement, etc. It also means “register for” or “sign up for,” typically used in reference to accounts (online or otherwise) but it’s also used for signing up for a conference or class or even for auditions for a team or show. What underlies this is that something — an obligation or commitment or pact or response or arrangement of some sort — comes about as a result of the signing (or signing up). {qI’} can also be used for signing a petition. In this case, the signer hopes for an action or response on the part of the recipient of the petition, knowing, however, that it may not come to pass. What might come about as a result of the signing is potential. The signing (or signing up) need not be done by putting pen to paper or the like. It can be electronic (e-signing) or anything else that is recognized by the parties involved. {qI’} is still the verb used for this. The object of {qI’} is the document (actual or electronic or whatever) that the “signature” ends up on or associated with, thereby becoming documentation of the commitment. When one signs an autograph, there is no commitment or reponse involved. A celebrity’s signature on a photo, for example, implies no expectation that the celebrity (or anyone else) will or might do anything. Accordingly, {qI’} is not appropriate here. The verb used for signing an autograph is {tlhI’}. This is also the verb to use for artists signing their works. This action involves making a mark of some kind that is associated specifically with the mark maker. This mark could be (and maybe usually is) the name of the signer (that is, a signature) made in a distinctive way that only the signer uses, perhaps in a form difficult to decipher by those unfamiliar with what it is. As with {qI’}, the object of {tlhI’} is the document (or photo, work of art, etc.) that the signature is applied to. There is also a noun {tlhI’} that might best be translated as “signature.” (It is not grammatical to say {tlhI’ tlhI’} “sign a signature”; the verb {tlhI'} already includes the notion that the resulting mark is a {tlhI’}. Well, {tlhI’ tlhI’} could be used, I suppose, if one were to sign on top of an already-existing {tlhI’}.) {bItlhI’ vIneH}, literally something like “I want you to sign,” would be understood to mean “I want your autograph.” (Similarly: {paqwIj DatlhI’ vIneH} would be understood to mean “I want you to autograph my book.”) Interestingly, {tlhI’} (both the noun and the verb) may also refer to what an animal does to mark its territory. To write (or make marks) in general is, of course {ghItlh}. ------------------- -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" https://tlhInganHol.com https://klingon.wiki/En/KlingonAtConventions

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Klingon Word of the Day: jorja
by Klingon Word of the Day 24 Jul '24

24 Jul '24

Klingon Word of the Day for Wednesday, July 24, 2024 Klingon word: jorja Part of speech: noun Definition: Georgia (US state) Source: qepHom 2018 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: tlhawjoq
by Klingon Word of the Day 23 Jul '24

23 Jul '24

Klingon Word of the Day for Tuesday, July 23, 2024 Klingon word: tlhawjoq Part of speech: noun Definition: mantle (geology) Source: qep'a' 28 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: votlh
by Klingon Word of the Day 22 Jul '24

22 Jul '24

Klingon Word of the Day for Monday, July 22, 2024 Klingon word: votlh Part of speech: verb Definition: be narcissistic Source: qep'a' 29 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: Dang
by Klingon Word of the Day 22 Jul '24

22 Jul '24

Klingon Word of the Day for Saturday, July 20, 2024 Klingon word: Dang Part of speech: verb Definition: focus Source: qep'a' 28 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: qeq
by Klingon Word of the Day 22 Jul '24

22 Jul '24

Klingon Word of the Day for Sunday, July 21, 2024 Klingon word: qeq Part of speech: noun Definition: drill (military) Source: TKD This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Quj: mu'mey chu' tI'aq!
by James Landau 21 Jul '24

21 Jul '24

QI'yaH! ghew Dojmey vImawlaw' jIH! https://www.flamewarriorsguide.com/warriorshtm/swarm.htm Seems Lieven WAS referring to the word for "armpit"!

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Quj: mu'mey chu' tI'aq!
by James Landau 21 Jul '24

21 Jul '24

>I see no point in guessing the results of new words The purpose I had in mind for this game is threefold: 1. To have fun! 2. To see how clever we can be in coming up with Okrandesque puns, even if they aren't the puns that Marc Okrand ends up using. 3. We could also play competitively -- multiple players coming up with lists of predictions, and seeing who got the most right/the highest score. The guesses/non-canon words could be scored according to how close they were once the real qep'a' word list is revealed. The exact right wordform would be worth 3 points. If someone got the basic word right but the wrong wordFORM -- in matters of where the glottal stops go, whether the pun-source word is truncated, forward vs. backward, etc., it would be worth 2 points. And if someone guessed the source of a pun right but chose a different word than what Marc turned out to choose , it would be worth 1 point. (For example, in the last qep'a', the word for "feldspar" was *moqlam* -- a reference to Craig Feldspar from Malcolm in the Middle. If someone had guessed *Qegh* for "feldspar", s/he would score 1 point on that word.) To prevent third-party list members from accidentally misremembering the wrong guesses (which will probably be most of the guesses) as the canon words, the "players" could privately send their lists to me instead of posting them publicly, and I would do the counting/scoring in such a method of gameplay. >and strongly >discourage sending such a list full of non-canon words. We don't jave to send our lists of non-canon speculation in to Marc Okrand. Although if he saw such a list AFTER the new words were revealed, I think he may be mildly amused. I have posted here before about dreams I have had wherein new words were revealed (or, as in the case of my insect words dream, created but then withheld from us). One dream was about Marc Okrand revealing new words for diseases like AIDS and syphilis (and the word for AIDS referenced the musical RENT). I have also had a dream wherein I created a whole bunch of Klingon words for mammals we didn't have yet and put them up on a webpage. (There were three words for kinds of chipmunk-like creatures from Kronos in this dream, one a braggart, one brainy, and one that loves food, and the words for these species of chipmunkoids were based on Alvin, Simon, and Theodore.) Should people not post about such dreams they had if imaginary non-canon words appeared in the dream? >It has happened >before that someone didn't read the entire message and accidentally >assumed it was a new word. Are you talking about *'I'* (the word for "armpit")? Well, from the looks of things, this isn't going to become an annual activity on tlhingan-hol(a)lists.kli.org. Message: 3 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 07:00:25 +0200 From: "Lieven L. Litaer" <levinius(a)gmx.de> To: tlhingan-hol(a)kli.org Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Quj: mu'mey chu' tI'aq! Message-ID: <d3c646da-63ec-432c-baf1-529548a2adbc(a)gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Am 17.07.2024 um 01:50 schrieb James Landau via tlhIngan-Hol: > With the qep'a' wejmaH wa'DIch in only 9 days, I thought it would be fun > to try to predict the new words that Marc Okrand will give up from the > chabal tetlh. These are my guesses; some of them I wasn't inspired > enough to even try on.

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Klingon Word of the Day: Duj ngaDHa'
by Klingon Word of the Day 19 Jul '24

19 Jul '24

Klingon Word of the Day for Friday, July 19, 2024 Klingon word: Duj ngaDHa' Part of speech: noun Definition: irresponsible person, undisciplined person (slang) Source: KGT This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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