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tlhInganpu' vorgh vs dsc tlhInganpu'
by mayqel qunenoS 14 Jun '18

14 Jun '18

tlhInganpu' 'agh Hov leng puq poH veb; tlhInganpu' 'agh je Hov leng voyager. maj.. chay' chaH tlhInganvam ? DI'onmey'e' ghajbogh tlhInganpu'vam DInuDchugh, vaj 'op Doch DItlhoj. Dochmeyvam'e', bIH: 1. tIq jIbDu'chaj 2. woch 3. Somraw tIn ghaj 'a motlh rorbe' porghmeychaj 4. jatlhtaHvIS, ghoghmeychaj 'IjlaHchu' vay' 'ej DI'onmeyvammo', SuvwI'na' rur Hov leng puq poH veb Hov leng voyager je tlhInganpu'. 'a Hov leng *dsc* tlhInganpu' lunuDlu'chugh, vaj nom belHa'choHlu'.. 1. jIb ghajbe' (!!!) 2. wochqu'be' 3. pI'qu' qabDu'chaj (???) 4. qabDu'chaj pI'mo', jatlhtaHvIS taQ ghoghDu'chaj meqmeyvammo', moHqu' *dsc* tlhInganpu', 'ej chaq Doch law' rur, 'a SuvwI' rurbe'bej. ~ nI'ghma

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Klingon Word of the Day: SuS
by Klingon Word of the Day 13 Jun '18

13 Jun '18

Klingon Word of the Day for Wednesday, June 13, 2018 Klingon word: SuS Part of speech: noun Definition: wind, breeze Source: TKD This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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“Some nights ago” / julwIj wov SoHbej
by Daniel Dadap 13 Jun '18

13 Jun '18

(At this rate I might just keep doing these reconstructions and publish a collection of reconstructed children’s songs) While reconstructing the original Klingon lyrics to “You are my sunshine”, I wanted to express “some nights ago” as a time stamp. What I came up with was “Hu' puS ram”. Does that make any sense? (If not, in this particular case I think I could just make it an explicit “cha'Hu' ram”, which I think is a possible literal interpretation of “the other night”. Anyway, here’s another reconstruction: I usually only hear the refrain and first verse of the Terran version, and I hadn’t realized how very sad this song is (which is probably why the other verses are usually omitted.) mu'mey bomqa'lu'bogh: julwIj wov SoHbej, latlh jul vIghajbe'. 'eng law' ghajDI' chal, choQuchqa'moH. bangwI' SoHbej, 'ach chaq not bISovlaH. julwIj wov yItlhapQo' 'e' vItlhob! Refrain (“words which are sung again”): You are certainly my bright sun, I do not have another sun. When the sky has many clouds, you make me happy again. You are certainly my loved one, but perhaps you will never be able to know. I beg that you do not take my bright sun! Hu' puS ram bangwI', jIQongtaHvIS jIH, DeSDu'wIjDaq qa'uch 'e' vInaj. 'ach ghIq jIvemDI', jIQaghlaw'pu' jIH. nach vI'eSmoH 'ej jISaQchoH. Some nights ago, my love, while I was sleeping, I dreamt that I held you in my arms. But then when I awoke, I had apparently been mistaken. I lowered my head and began to cry. (mu'mey bomqa'lu'bogh pebomqa') (Sing Refrain again) reH qamuSHa' 'ej reH qaQuchqu'moH. jIHvaD 'e' Dajatlh je vIneHqu'. 'a jIH cholonchugh, 'ej latlh Danejchugh, 'opleS 'e' Dapay 'e' vIHarchu'. I will always love you and I will always make you very happy. I want very much that you say that to me as well. But if you abandon me, and if you find another, I perfectly believe that someday you will regret that. (mu'mey bomqa'lu'bogh pebomqa') (Sing refrain again) chomuSHa'qu' 'e' wa'logh Daja'pu', not nuchev vay' 'e' Daja'pu' je. 'ach DaH cholonpu', latlh DamuSHa'qu', vaj Hoch vItulbogh Daghorpu'. You had said once that you love me very much, You had also said that someone would never separate us. But now you have abandoned me, you love another very much, So you have broken everything that I hope for. (mu'mey bomqa'lu'bogh pebomqa') (Sing refrain again) reH jInajtaHvIS, cholonqa'law' SoH. jIvemDI' 'oy'qu' tIqwIj Do'Ha'. naDev DacheghDI', choQuchqa'moHDI', Hoch jIqeHHa', 'ej chopIchlaHba'! Always while I am dreaming, you seem to abandon me again. When I wake up my unfortunate heart hurts very much. When you come back here, when you make me happy again, I will forgive everything, and you can obviously blame me! (mu'mey bomqa'lu'bogh pebomqa') (Sing refrain again)

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Expressing location and “prettier than all others” / Hoch DechtaH tI nIl
by Daniel Dadap 13 Jun '18

13 Jun '18

I think I’ll probably stop once I’ve done nine songs, since nine seems like a nice round number (in ternary), and I don’t think I’ll have the energy to do twenty seven. This one was fairly straightforward, since there is a formula to each verse, and rhyme isn’t a constraint, but I have a couple of questions about the formula: 1) IIUC the generally expected way to express that noun Y is in/on/at noun X is {(X)Daq 'oHtaH (Y)'e'}. How acceptable or unacceptable is it to abbreviate this to {(X)Daq (Y)}? I’ve used the shorter option below, but if that doesn’t really fly I can switch to the longer version; it just means that each line of Klingon text following that pattern takes up the musical space of two analogous lines from the English version, which would make the Klingon version even longer and more annoying than the already long and annoying English version. 2) Would {(X) (Y) law' Hoch latlhmey (Y) puS} mean that X is more Y than all other Xes, or that X is more Y than all other things, not limited to other Xes? I’m trying to express the former meaning without having to do {(X) (Y) law' Hoch (X)mey (Y) puS} every time, partly because being able to use {latlh} in every verse strengthens the formula, and partly because it’s already slightly awkward to accommodate different syllable counts for the different X items that appear in the verses. Anyway, here’s my reconstruction of the original Klingon for “The Green Grass Grows All Around”. I’m only going to bother with the intended meaning in English for the first verse, because the subsequent verses just plug new words into the formula: toH, vogh yavDaq, QemjIq tu'lu', QemjIq 'IQ law' Hoch latlhmey 'IQ puS. yavDaq QemjIq, 'ej Hoch DechtaH tI nIl, tI nIl, 'ej Hoch DechtaH tI nIl. So, somewhere in the ground, there was a hole, The hole was prettier than all others. The hole was in the ground, And grassy vegetation was surrounding everything, grassy vegetation, And grassy vegetation was surrounding everything. 'ej QemjIqDaq Sor woch tu'lu', Sorvetlh 'IQ law' Hoch latlhmey 'IQ puS. QemjIqDaq Sor, yavDaq QemjIq, 'ej Hoch DechtaH tI nIl, tI nIl, 'ej Hoch DechtaH tI nIl. 'ej SorDaq Qechjem'a' tu'lu', Qechjem'a' 'IQ law' Hoch latlhmey 'IQ puS. SorDaq Qechjem'a', QemjIqDaq Sor, yavDaq QemjIq, 'ej Hoch DechtaH tI nIl, tI nIl, 'ej Hoch DechtaH tI nIl. Qechjem'a'Daq, Qechjem tu'lu', Qechjem 'IQ law' Hoch latlhmey 'IQ puS. Qechjem'a'Daq Qechjem, SorDaq Qechjem'a', QemjIqDaq Sor, yavDaq QemjIq, 'ej Hoch DechtaH tI nIl, tI nIl, 'ej Hoch DechtaH tI nIl. 'ej QechjemDaq, bartIq tu'lu', bartIq 'IQ law' Hoch latlhmey 'IQ puS. vaj QechjemDaq bartIq, Qechjem'a'Daq Qechjem, SorDaq Qechjem'a', QemjIqDaq Sor, yavDaq QemjIq, 'ej Hoch DechtaH tI nIl, tI nIl, 'ej Hoch DechtaH tI nIl. 'ej bartIqDaq, bo'Degh juH tu'lu', bo'Degh juH 'IQ law' Hoch latlhmey 'IQ puS. bartIqDaq juH, QechjemDaq bartIq, Qechjem'a'Daq Qechjem, SorDaq Qechjem'a', QemjIqDaq Sor, yavDaq QemjIq, 'ej Hoch DechtaH tI nIl, tI nIl, 'ej Hoch DechtaH tI nIl. bo'Degh juHDaq, QIm mach tu'lu', QImvetlh 'IQ law' Hoch latlhmey 'IQ puS. vaj juHDaq QIm, bartIqDaq juH, QechjemDaq bartIq, Qechjem'a'Daq Qechjem, SorDaq Qechjem'a', QemjIqDaq Sor, yavDaq QemjIq, 'ej Hoch DechtaH tI nIl, tI nIl, 'ej Hoch DechtaH tI nIl. 'ej QImvetlhDaq bo'Degh tu'lu', bo'Degh 'IQ law' Hoch latlhmey 'IQ puS. QImDaq bo'Degh, 'ej juHDaq QIm, bartIqDaq juH, QechjemDaq bartIq, Qechjem'a'Daq Qechjem, SorDaq Qechjem'a', QemjIqDaq Sor, yavDaq QemjIq, 'ej Hoch DechtaH tI nIl, tI nIl, 'ej Hoch DechtaH tI nIl. 'ej bo'DeghDaq, telHom tu'lu', telvetlh 'IQ law' Hoch latlhmey 'IQ puS. bo'DeghDaq tel, QImDaq bo'Degh, 'ej juHDaq QIm, bartIqDaq juH, QechjemDaq bartIq, Qechjem'a'Daq Qechjem, SorDaq Qechjem'a', QemjIqDaq Sor, yavDaq QemjIq, 'ej Hoch DechtaH tI nIl, tI nIl, 'ej Hoch DechtaH tI nIl. 'ej telvetlhDaq, boHom tu'lu', bovetlh 'IQ law' Hoch latlhmey 'IQ puS. vaj telDaq bo, bo'DeghDaq tel, QImDaq bo'Degh, 'ej juHDaq QIm, bartIqDaq juH, QechjemDaq bartIq, Qechjem'a'Daq Qechjem, SorDaq Qechjem'a', QemjIqDaq Sor, yavDaq QemjIq, 'ej Hoch DechtaH tI nIl, tI nIl, 'ej Hoch DechtaH tI nIl. 'ej bovetlhDaq, ghewHom tu'lu', ghewvetlh 'IQ law' Hoch latlhmey 'IQ puS. vaj boDaq ghew, 'ej telDaq bo, bo'DeghDaq tel, QImDaq bo'Degh, 'ej juHDaq QIm, bartIqDaq juH, QechjemDaq bartIq, Qechjem'a'Daq Qechjem, SorDaq Qechjem'a', QemjIqDaq Sor, yavDaq QemjIq, 'ej Hoch DechtaH tI nIl, tI nIl, 'ej Hoch DechtaH tI nIl. 'ej ghewvetlhDaq, lerup tu'lu', lerup 'IQ law' Hoch latlhmey 'IQ puS. ghewDaq lerup, 'ej boDaq ghew, 'ej telDaq bo, bo'DeghDaq tel, QImDaq bo'Degh, 'ej juHDaq QIm, bartIqDaq juH, QechjemDaq bartIq, Qechjem'a'Daq Qechjem, SorDaq Qechjem'a', QemjIqDaq Sor, yavDaq QemjIq, 'ej Hoch DechtaH tI nIl, tI nIl, 'ej Hoch DechtaH tI nIl. 'ej lerupDaq, roSghaH tu'lu', roSghaH 'IQ law' Hoch latlhmey 'IQ puS. lerupDaq roSghaH, ghewDaq lerup, 'ej boDaq ghew, 'ej telDaq bo, bo'DeghDaq tel, QImDaq bo'Degh, 'ej juHDaq QIm, bartIqDaq juH, QechjemDaq bartIq, Qechjem'a'Daq Qechjem, SorDaq Qechjem'a', QemjIqDaq Sor, yavDaq QemjIq, 'ej Hoch DechtaH tI nIl, tI nIl, 'ej Hoch DechtaH tI nIl. 'ej roSghaHDaq 'o'rIS tu'lu', 'o'rIS 'IQ law' Hoch latlhmey 'IQ puS. roSghaHDaq 'o'rIS, lerupDaq roSghaH, ghewDaq lerup, 'ej boDaq ghew, 'ej telDaq bo, bo'DeghDaq tel, QImDaq bo'Degh, 'ej juHDaq QIm, bartIqDaq juH, QechjemDaq bartIq, Qechjem'a'Daq Qechjem, SorDaq Qechjem'a', QemjIqDaq Sor, yavDaq QemjIq, 'ej Hoch DechtaH tI nIl, tI nIl, 'ej Hoch DechtaH tI nIl. 'ej 'o'rISDaq, HeySel tu'lu', HeySel 'IQ law' Hoch latlhmey 'IQ puS. 'o'rISDaq HeySel, roSghaHDaq 'o'rIS, lerupDaq roSghaH, ghewDaq lerup, 'ej boDaq ghew, 'ej telDaq bo, bo'DeghDaq tel, QImDaq bo'Degh, 'ej juHDaq QIm, bartIqDaq juH, QechjemDaq bartIq, Qechjem'a'Daq Qechjem, SorDaq Qechjem'a', QemjIqDaq Sor, yavDaq QemjIq, 'ej Hoch DechtaH tI nIl, tI nIl, 'ej Hoch DechtaH tI nIl. 'ej HeySelDaq, valtIn tu'lu', valtIn 'IQ law' Hoch latlhmey 'IQ puS. HeySelDaq valtIn, 'o'rISDaq HeySel, roSghaHDaq 'o'rIS, lerupDaq roSghaH, ghewDaq lerup, 'ej boDaq ghew, 'ej telDaq bo, bo'DeghDaq tel, QImDaq bo'Degh, 'ej juHDaq QIm, bartIqDaq juH, QechjemDaq bartIq, Qechjem'a'Daq Qechjem, SorDaq Qechjem'a', QemjIqDaq Sor, yavDaq QemjIq, 'ej Hoch DechtaH tI nIl, tI nIl, 'ej Hoch DechtaH tI nIl. 'ej valtInvetlh bavtaH tem mach, temvetlh 'IQ law' Hoch latlhmey 'IQ puS. valtIn bavtaH tem, HeySelDaq valtIn, 'o'rISDaq HeySel, roSghaHDaq 'o'rIS, lerupDaq roSghaH, ghewDaq lerup, 'ej boDaq ghew, 'ej telDaq bo, bo'DeghDaq tel, QImDaq bo'Degh, 'ej juHDaq QIm, bartIqDaq juH, QechjemDaq bartIq, Qechjem'a'Daq Qechjem, SorDaq Qechjem'a', QemjIqDaq Sor, yavDaq QemjIq, 'ej Hoch DechtaH tI nIl, tI nIl, 'ej Hoch DechtaH tI nIl. 'ej Hoch DechtaH tI nIl, tI nIl, 'ej Hoch DechtaH tI nIl.

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Klingon Word of the Day: boq
by Klingon Word of the Day 12 Jun '18

12 Jun '18

Klingon Word of the Day for Tuesday, June 12, 2018 Klingon word: boq Part of speech: noun Definition: alliance, bloc, coalition, fusion Source: HQ (9:3 p8) This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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bIje''eghchugh vaj bIHegh
by Daniel Dadap 12 Jun '18

12 Jun '18

We all know that {bIjeghchugh vaj bIHegh} is something you might hear in battle, and {bIje'chugh vaj bIHegh} is something you might hear when entering a store on Qo'noS, but what about {bIje''eghchugh vaj bIHegh}? It seems like a reasonable thing a restaurant proprietor might tell you, and is also more self-evidently true than the other two. I tried doing a web search for {bIje''eghchugh vaj bIHegh}, and wasn’t able to find any existing uses of this phrase. However, Klingon text searches in Terran database systems can be a bit hit or miss. Surely others must have invented this same pun already, I would think… At the very least, it makes for an amusing demonstration of how important the {qaghwI'} is.

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bomHomvam'e' reH bomlu'lI'
by Daniel Dadap 11 Jun '18

11 Jun '18

This one was pretty simple, and it’s also my very favorite reconstruction so far, but it’s also very, very evil. bomvammo' tumuSbe'chugh, vaj not tumuSlaH 'e' vIHar… ∞ bomHomvam'e' reH bomlu'lI', nI'qu', nI'qu'bej, juppu'wI'. bomHomvam bomchoHpu' vay', 'ach not mevlaH 'e' HarQo'. reH bomHomvam wIbomtaH, mamevbe', mevlaHbe'mo'... ∞ [ Hoch pebomqa'. ghIq rIn bom 'e' boHarDI', Hoch pebomqa'. 'ej pebomqa'. bomvam bobom 'e' pemevQo'. bomvam mevlaH bomwI' Hegh neH. ] (“The Song that Doesn’t End” boSovbe'chugh, 'oH boghoj_Qo'_ 'e' vIchup_qu'_!) If you do not hate me because of this song, then I believe you will never be able to hate me… ∞ This little song will always be in the process of being sung, It is very long, it is certainly very long, my friends. Somebody had started singing this little song, but refused to believe that it can never stop. We will always be singing this little song, we will not stop, because it cannot stop… ∞ [ Sing everything again. Then when you believe the song is finished, sing everything again. And sing again. Do not stop singing this song. Only the death of the singer can stop this song. ] (If you do not know “The Song That Doesn’t End”, I _strongly_ recommend that you do _not_ learn it!)

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Klingon Word of the Day: tenwal
by Klingon Word of the Day 11 Jun '18

11 Jun '18

Klingon Word of the Day for Monday, June 11, 2018 Klingon word: tenwal Part of speech: noun Definition: page (in a book) Source: qepHom 2015 p.18 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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HovHom, HovHom, yIbochchu'
by Daniel Dadap 11 Jun '18

11 Jun '18

I didn’t realize this one had more than one verse until I looked it up. HovHom, HovHom, yIbochchu'! nuq Dayugh 'e' vISIvqu'. qo' DungDaq bIjenqu'taH. chalDaq naghboch bIrurlaH. Little star, little star, shine clearly! I want to know very much what you consist of. Above the world you are very high. In the sky you can resemble a gemstone. ghIq mejDI' meQtaHbogh jul, DachDI' Doch wovmoHbogh qul, vaj yI'ang'egh 'ej yIwov, vaj ram Hoch bIwov net Sov. Then when the burning sun leaves, When things illuminated by the fire are absent, Then reveal yourself and be bright, Then it is known that you are bright all night. taw HurghDaq lengwI' Dutlho', Quchqu' ghaH bIwovchu'mo'. bIDachchugh, pagh leghlaH ghaH, leghlaHmo' DaH lenglaHtaH. On the dark road a traveler thanks you, He/she is very happy because you are perfectly bright. When you are absent, he/she can see nothing, Because he/she can see, he/she is able to travel. chal SuD 'ej HurghDaq SoHtaH, QorwaghwIjDaq qaleghlaH. ram bIwov 'e' not Damev, wovDI' jul, naDevvo' DuDev. You are in the dark blue sky, I can see you in my window. At night you never cease to be bright, When the sun is bright, it leads you away. DaH lengtaHvIS lengwI' yoH, taw HurghDaq ghaH DawovmoH. wej nuq Dayugh 'e' vIsov, HovHom, HovHom, reH yIwov. Now while the brave traveler is traveling, On the dark road you illuminate him/her. I do not know yet what you consist of, Little star, little star, be bright always. HovHom, HovHom, yIbochchu'! nuq Dayugh 'e' vISIvqu'. qo' DungDaq bIjenqu'taH. chalDaq naghboch bIrurlaH. HovHom, HovHom, yIbochchu'! nuq Dayugh 'e' vISIvqu'. Little star, little star, shine clearly! I want to know very much what you consist of. Above the world you are very high. In the sky you can resemble a gemstone. Little star, little star, shine clearly! I want to know very much what you consist of. (Twinkle Twinkle Little Star, quSDaq ba')

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ghormaghenDerHom
by Daniel Dadap 10 Jun '18

10 Jun '18

(Sorry for the spam again; I’m having way too much fun with this.) This is my first reconstruction where I’ve made substantial changes to the imagery. There is also an intentionally ungrammatical word: ghotI''a'Hom (kind of like qepHom'a'.) As usual, I would appreciate being notified of any serious grammatical or lexical problems: ghormaghenDerHom, logh HopDaq SoHtaH. bItlhabbej, 'ej bIpuvlaH. tInqu' logh, mamachqu' maH. logh ghotI''a'Hom SoH, 'ej Dat bIjaH. Little gormagander, you are in deep space. You are certainly independent, and you can fly. Space is very big, we are very small. You are a little space whale (lit.: little big fish), and you go everywhere. ghormaghenDerHom, 'o ghormaghenDerHom, bIr'a' logh? 'ej pa' SoSoy tu'lu''a'? Sutay'DI', SuQuchba'! Little gormagander, oh little gormagander, Is space cold? And is mommy there? When you are together, you are obviously happy! loghDaq puvtaH Dujmey, bIpuvtaH je. reH pa' bIreH, 'ej bI''IQbe'. bavtaH maS, yuQ, Hovmey je. logh HopDaq Dachmo' muD, bItlhuHnISbe'. Ships are flying in space, you are flying too. There you always play, and you are not sad. Moons, planets, and stars orbit. Because an atmosphere is absent in deep space, you do not need to breathe. ghormaghenDerHom, 'o ghormaghenDerHom, bomHomlIj yIbom, juppu'vaD yIbom, pIQoy 'e' wItIvqu'! Little gormagander, oh little gormagander, Sing your little song, Sing to friends, we enjoy hearing you very much! loghDaq Hurghqu'ba' Hoch, 'ej juHlIj 'oH. QongDaqDaq yIchurHa''eghmoH. maS, yuQ, Hovmey je wIlegh, DaH yIQongchoHmoH, 'ej wa'leS po jIchegh. Everything is obviously very dark in space, and it is your home. Make yourself comfortable in the sleeping place. We see moons, planets, and stars, Now make yourself fall asleep, and tomorrow morning I will return. ghormaghenDerHom, 'o ghormaghenDerHom, jul Daleghqa' 'ej jaj chu' taghlu'bej, tughqu' bIvembej! Little gormagander, oh little gormagander, You will see the sun again, and a new day will certainly begin, Very soon you will certainly wake up! ghormaghenDerHom, logh HopDaq SoHtaH. bItlhabbej, 'ej bIpuvlaH. tInqu' logh, mamachqu' maH, logh ghotI''a'Hom SoH, 'ej Dat bIjaH. logh ghotI''a'Hom SoH, 'ej Dat bIjaH. Little gormagander, you are in deep space. You are certainly independent, and you can fly. Space is very big, we are very small. You are a little space whale, and you go everywhere. You are a little space whale, and you go everywhere. (Baby Beluga, in case it’s not obvious.)

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