October 2023 - tlhIngan-Hol

Klingon language Commercials
by Lieven L. Litaer 28 Oct '23

28 Oct '23

In case anyone search for commercials using Klingon language, see this page: https://klingon.wiki/En/KlingonInCommercials If you know about more, please tell me, or add them yourself. That's what a wiki is made for. -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.tlhInganHol.com

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Klingon in SyFy channel basement-dweller commercial?
by James Landau 28 Oct '23

28 Oct '23

I recently read something about this commercial from the TV Tropes article https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BasementDweller : "An irate man is gathering signatures against an upcoming Star Trek marathon on Sci-Fi Channel, ranting how only losers who live in their mother's basements watch this stuff. The old lady he's talking to suggests her son might be interested. "I'll just get him. He's in the basement." Cue an enormous cosplayer dressed as a Klingon warrior emerging from the basement and knocking the man unconscious. Old Lady: [in Klingon, subtitled] You do not fight with honor! Klingon: Aw, Mom! " I haven't been able to find this SyFy Channel commercial online, so has anyone here seen it? I'm curious to know whether the commercial uses real (and correctly-pronounced) Klingon.

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Klingon Word of the Day: rech
by James Landau 28 Oct '23

28 Oct '23

The 12,000+ entries are a result of the "splitlang" nature of the LCV. There are 32 entries for "cousin", for instance. If you're creating a naturalistic conlang, you won't get 12,000 separate words out of this list. I once ran the list through WordSmith (corpus software) and discovered that if you created a conlang that covered every concept in the LCV (bot no other concepts) with the same degree of polysemy and synonymy as English, you'd have about 5,800 lemmata in your conlang. A number of other claims to "core vocabulary" have lexica of comparable sizes. Jayme Adelson-Goldstein and Norma Shapiro's _Oxford Picture Dictionary_, for instance, advertises itself as covering the core vocabulary of English, and has about 4,000 entries. Some of the terms it includes, such as "TDD" and "bobbin", are not words that all adult native speakers of American English know. The Oxford 5000 list, another core vocabulary list (see https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/wordlists/oxford3000-5000 ), contains 5,000 words, although unlike OPD, it does not have low-frequency specialized nouns. And as Will Martin says, the core vocabularies of individual languages differ. The LCV has some fruits like "durian" and "rambutan" that many English-speakers get along fine without, but those are part of the core vocabulary of many Southeast Asian languages. Although the LCV's bias in general is modern, there are also words like "driftwood", "adze", "sword", "dynasty", "warlord", and "mead" that will be of use to creators of Polynesian-style, Imperial-China-style, etc. conlangs. And I've consulted lists of the most common lemmata in English, Spanish, Japanese, and other natlangs with their most common meanings to make sure I have the high-frequency, can't-do-without-'em concepts covered. All in all, though, I've found the LCV useful for creating conlangs for the Lehola Galaxy -- just so long as I remember to add in lots of words for Lehola-specific animals, plants, sapient species, foods, clothing items, music genres, musical instruments, sports, religious concepts, technology, >4-dimension terms, calendar terms, place names, etc. to my conlangs! Those are the kinds of terms you CAN'T find on lists like the Landau Core Vocabulary! >Message: 2>Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2023 00:52:26 -0400 >From: Alan Anderson <qunchuy(a)alcaco.net> >To: tlhingan-hol(a)kli.org >Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Klingon Word of the Day: rech >Message-ID: <2CE4B041-DFB2-4981-A6A9-14D3393FCC9B(a)alcaco.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > >On Oct 21, 2023, at 8:09 PM, James Landau via tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol(a)lists.kli.org> wrote: >> The LCV now stands at 12,419 entries + 1,000 names. >> And that, my friends, is the story of the Landau Core Vocabulary. > >I?m unable to reconcile the myriad words with the ?core vocabulary? concept. > ->- ghunchu'wI'

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ghIQta'ghachwIj
by Will Martin 27 Oct '23

27 Oct '23

DoyIchlangan ‘eyre'ngan je chaH be’nalwI’ no'’e’. ben law' DoyIchlan wISuchta’ be’nal jIH je. qen ‘eyre’Daq maghIQ be’nalwI’ puqloDDaj jIH je. qaSpa’ wanI’vam, not ‘eyre’ wISuch. ‘eyre’ nIQ naQ vItIvchu’, ‘ach pIj nIQvam vISopqa’chugh, jIpI’choHba’. qaStaHvIS cha’ Hogh maghIQ ‘ej cha’logh ‘eyre’ nIQ naQ wISop. pa’ ‘Iw wIlpuq yugh nIQ. ‘amerI’qa’ SepjIjQa’Daq not ‘Iw wIlpuq vISoppu’. ‘ey. ro’qegh ‘Iwchab rur. QIm yugh je nIQvam. yorDaq Sotlhqel tu’lu’. ‘IH. DI’raq luH Say’lu’pu'bogh ‘ej ghoDlu’pu’bogh yugh, je yugh je nIQvam le'. ghoDmeH la’yIgh Ha’DIbaH je lo’lu’. DI’raqvo’ nIm wIb ngogh yugh nIQvam le’ je. ‘Eychugh Soj, ghaytan ‘eyre’ nIQ naQ yugh. ‘eyre’ HIq vImaS. wIbbe’. Dat ‘IH jorchan. bIQ’a’Daq qoj’a’ tu’lu’. ‘IH HuDmey, ngechmey, bIQ’a’ HeH. *Burren*Daq wISuchDI’ muja' be’nalwI'. jatlh <<juHDaq jIpaw’ta’.>> HomDu’DajDaq Har. Qobba’ tawmey. lang. wanHa’. ghargh rur. nom SeD be’nalwI’ puqloD. Dat naghmey tu’lu. reD chenmoHmeH, naghmey lo’ Hoch. Dat nagh reD tu’lu’. qaStaHvIS cha’SaD DIS, Dat nagh chenmoHtaH ‘eyre’nganpu’. pItlh charghwI’ ‘utlh (ghaH, ghaH, -Daj)

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Klingon Word of the Day: lIyetu'va'
by Klingon Word of the Day 27 Oct '23

27 Oct '23

Klingon Word of the Day for Friday, October 27, 2023 Klingon word: lIyetu'va' Part of speech: noun Definition: Lithuania Source: qep'a' 30, Toki Pona: The Language of Good This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: rep'eSlaqram
by Klingon Word of the Day 26 Oct '23

26 Oct '23

Klingon Word of the Day for Thursday, October 26, 2023 Klingon word: rep'eSlaqram Part of speech: noun Definition: mascot Source: qep'a' 30 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: ghun
by Klingon Word of the Day 25 Oct '23

25 Oct '23

Klingon Word of the Day for Wednesday, October 25, 2023 Klingon word: ghun Part of speech: verb Definition: be warm Source: HQ v13n1 p.8 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: DeH
by Klingon Word of the Day 24 Oct '23

24 Oct '23

Klingon Word of the Day for Tuesday, October 24, 2023 Klingon word: DeH Part of speech: verb Definition: be ripe, be overripe (fruit, vegetable) Source: KGT This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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recording of Marc Okrand talk at Kopikon 2023
by De'vID 23 Oct '23

23 Oct '23

About a month ago, Dr. Okrand gave a talk at the Kopikon conlang conference. There's a recording of his talk here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P18XaCNXCmI&t=27636s Of particular interest is that he translated the name of the board game "Monopoly" into Klingon in case it was ever needed, though it ended up not being used. His translation was {ghatlhchu'ghach} "absolute dominance". You can see him talking about it at the 8:11:25 mark in the above video. -- De'vID

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Klingon Word of the Day: rech
by James Landau 23 Oct '23

23 Oct '23

>> Let's look at the "Body Functions" section of the Landau Core Vocabulary >> and see how many of these words we have in Klingon: > >That sounds like a good idea. To keep that list up to date, I have added >it to the Klingon wiki, so we can easily keep track of it. > >https://klingon.wiki/En/BodyFunctions majQa'! vImuSHa'! >Besides, could you please tell me more about that list? Was it your idea? Sure! Let me tell you the story. In November of 1997, I was spending Thanksgiving vacation at Grandmom Alyce's house when I got an idea: a list of words that conlangers could use when building the vocabularies for their conlangs, or that foreign language learners could study to make sure they'd have under their belts. There was Rick Harrison's ULD (see at https://www.frathwiki.com/Universal_Language_Dictionary in its current incarnation), but that lacked a lot of basic words; for instance, it didn't have "hungry" nor "thirsty". And I thought it odd that the ULD had "safflower" but not "elephant". I set to work at creating a basic list of 2,000 words. I relied on lists like the Rebecca Sitton spelling program's 1,200-word list to get the most common words. I also used the Spanish Picture Dictionary (you know, the one with Strongman Sam, Fifi, Henry, Ben, Bill, and the baby called Mimi/Zizi?) I arranged them by part of speech and by content area within each part of speech, and finished with 2,000 words. I named it the Landau Universal Vocabulary, which unintentionally shortened to LUV -- as in "luv", the cutesy way of spelling "love". In 1998, I put it up on my old Kankonian language/Lehola Galaxy site, which went down with the old Prodigy in 2002. In 2004, thoughts about a newer, bigger list with no round-number ceilings on number of words included brewed in my head. It would be divided into five parts, I decided: a Swadeshesque beginning part; function words, pronouns, adverbs, and grammatical concepts; numbers; and two lists of nouns, verbs, and adjectives (a Part IV with basic words and a Part V with more advanced words but covering more or less the same categories). Plus and appendix of proper names. This new list would be arranged by category, without the words being numbered, and would allow words of different parts of speech to be placed in the same vocabulary. On Christmas Day of 2006, I copied LUV and began on my long journey of turning it into something new. I called it the Landau Core Vocabulary, or LCV (yes, as in League of Conservation Voters). I remember that QISmaS jaj well, as I received a phone call from my best friend Lamesha that day. I broke the list into five parts, with categories in Parts II, IV, and V. That included creating a subset called the Basic 150 List (words like "mother", "cloud", and "to breathe"). On August 18, 2010, I started a thread on it on what was then the brand-new incarnation of Aevas' CBB (Conlanger Bulletin Board). Not all the kinks were out of it, yet; I still had a Miscellaneous section at the time. Ossicone, now the co-admin at the CBB, helped me fit the Miscellaneous words into categories and get rid of my Miscellaneous section. Over the next decade, the LCV grew. New sections, such as Air Travel, Space Travel, Sex, and Genetics and Biochemistry were added. I consulted dictionaries of German, Irish Gaelic, French, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Russian, Arabic, Mandarin, Japanese, Korean, and Vietnamese to find distinctions like "to sail (at the helm)" versus "to sail (as a passenger)". The size ballooned once I had found these distinctions, across English and twelve other languages, for all these words. I often bought foreign-language dictionaries from Barnes & Noble (and had to order my Oxford Russian dictionary through the post). By April 2014, the categories had been reworked considerably. Let's see if you recognize these "to be stuck" entries: to be stuck (be immovable: the door is stuck) to be stuck (be trapped, of a thing: the ring is stuck on my finge) to be stuck (be trapped, of a person: Paul got stuck in the bathtub) to be stuck (Alice was stuck in traffic) to be stuck (I'm stuck at school) to be stuck (I'm stuck with you) to be stuck (Ken is stuck on this math problem) In February of 2016, I reworked the Basic 150 List into a Basic 200 List, with some semantic splitting and some new words. (I had also dropped some words from the earlier list, such as the names of seasons, since not all cultures recognize spring, summer, autumn, and winter (the Ancient Egyptians didn't), or the words "wife" and "husband", since it's easy to conceive of an anthropic conpeople without the institution of marriage). I sent preliminary copies (as in the work I've done on it so far) to many other conlangers and language learners, including Ossicone, HTH, CarsonDaConlanger, Tom H. Chappell, MissTerry, dva_arla, Galen Buttitta, Larry R. Lowe, Andrew Mac, All4Ɇn, Kimbwidini, some guy named Junior from Brazil (who had used the original LUV to learn English), and even Larry Rogers. In March of 2019, I added a truckload of new words -- and a Part VI, for slang and conversation-only words (like "mm-hmm"). The vocabulary blossomed over the next few years adding words from corpora like COCA and IGCE and word lists like the Oxford 3,000 and iKnow.jp. Starting in December 2019, I've been posting the relevant categories from the LCV for each week of Lexember on the CBB. (Since 2021, I've been participating in word-building too -- with my conlang Shaleyan). As a sample of the LCV, here's a section (from Part IV) that's sure to be of interest to Klingons: Verbs of War. ===Verbs of War=== to fight (intransitive)* to fight (transitive) to mount (attack) to launch (a missile) to strike (torpedo, missiles) to defeat to conquer (a people) to overcome, to conquer (enemy forces) to take over to overthrow to recruit (soldiers) to occupy to invade to surround to surrender (oneself) to surrender (forfeit a town, kingdom, etc.) to capture (enemy, prisoner) to seize, to capture (land, fort) to attack (the enemy in war) to defend to resist (an enemy country/army/faction) to move (troops) to be killed, to die (an untimely death) to advance (an army) to retreat to win (a battle/war) to lose (a battle/war) The LCV now stands at 12,419 entries + 1,000 names. And that, my friends, is the story of the Landau Core Vocabulary. >Message: 5>Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2023 18:29:37 +0200 >From: "Lieven L. Litaer" <levinius(a)gmx.de> >To: tlhingan-hol(a)kli.org >Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Klingon Word of the Day: rech >Message-ID: <0e1686f5-4816-dc3c-5b9d-434133586994(a)gmx.de> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > >Am 20.10.2023 um 04:36 schrieb James Landau via tlhIngan-Hol: >> Let's look at the "Body Functions" section of the Landau Core Vocabulary >> and see how many of these words we have in Klingon: > >That sounds like a good idea. To keep that list up to date, I have added >it to the Klingon wiki, so we can easily keep track of it. > >Besides, could you please tell me more about that list? Was it your idea? > >https://klingon.wiki/En/BodyFunctions

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