June 2018 - tlhIngan-Hol

ghormaghenDerHom
by Daniel Dadap 10 Jun '18

10 Jun '18

(Sorry for the spam again; I’m having way too much fun with this.) This is my first reconstruction where I’ve made substantial changes to the imagery. There is also an intentionally ungrammatical word: ghotI''a'Hom (kind of like qepHom'a'.) As usual, I would appreciate being notified of any serious grammatical or lexical problems: ghormaghenDerHom, logh HopDaq SoHtaH. bItlhabbej, 'ej bIpuvlaH. tInqu' logh, mamachqu' maH. logh ghotI''a'Hom SoH, 'ej Dat bIjaH. Little gormagander, you are in deep space. You are certainly independent, and you can fly. Space is very big, we are very small. You are a little space whale (lit.: little big fish), and you go everywhere. ghormaghenDerHom, 'o ghormaghenDerHom, bIr'a' logh? 'ej pa' SoSoy tu'lu''a'? Sutay'DI', SuQuchba'! Little gormagander, oh little gormagander, Is space cold? And is mommy there? When you are together, you are obviously happy! loghDaq puvtaH Dujmey, bIpuvtaH je. reH pa' bIreH, 'ej bI''IQbe'. bavtaH maS, yuQ, Hovmey je. logh HopDaq Dachmo' muD, bItlhuHnISbe'. Ships are flying in space, you are flying too. There you always play, and you are not sad. Moons, planets, and stars orbit. Because an atmosphere is absent in deep space, you do not need to breathe. ghormaghenDerHom, 'o ghormaghenDerHom, bomHomlIj yIbom, juppu'vaD yIbom, pIQoy 'e' wItIvqu'! Little gormagander, oh little gormagander, Sing your little song, Sing to friends, we enjoy hearing you very much! loghDaq Hurghqu'ba' Hoch, 'ej juHlIj 'oH. QongDaqDaq yIchurHa''eghmoH. maS, yuQ, Hovmey je wIlegh, DaH yIQongchoHmoH, 'ej wa'leS po jIchegh. Everything is obviously very dark in space, and it is your home. Make yourself comfortable in the sleeping place. We see moons, planets, and stars, Now make yourself fall asleep, and tomorrow morning I will return. ghormaghenDerHom, 'o ghormaghenDerHom, jul Daleghqa' 'ej jaj chu' taghlu'bej, tughqu' bIvembej! Little gormagander, oh little gormagander, You will see the sun again, and a new day will certainly begin, Very soon you will certainly wake up! ghormaghenDerHom, logh HopDaq SoHtaH. bItlhabbej, 'ej bIpuvlaH. tInqu' logh, mamachqu' maH, logh ghotI''a'Hom SoH, 'ej Dat bIjaH. logh ghotI''a'Hom SoH, 'ej Dat bIjaH. Little gormagander, you are in deep space. You are certainly independent, and you can fly. Space is very big, we are very small. You are a little space whale, and you go everywhere. You are a little space whale, and you go everywhere. (Baby Beluga, in case it’s not obvious.)

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Klingon Word of the Day: pegh
by Klingon Word of the Day 10 Jun '18

10 Jun '18

Klingon Word of the Day for Sunday, June 10, 2018 Klingon word: pegh Part of speech: noun Definition: secret Source: TKD (99 KE, 151 EK) This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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lut qonwI' vInej
by Jackson Bradley 09 Jun '18

09 Jun '18

Se'vIrHom vIchenmoHmeH lut Sar vInejtaH! Se'vIr vIchenmoH 'e' vItIvqu' 'ej lut puS lut law' ghap ngaSbogh paq vIchenmoH vIneHbej! nI'laH lut pagh ngajlaH. mIllogh lo'laH pagh mIllogh HutlhlaHchu' lut. jIHvaD lut Daqonbogh DaneHchugh HISovmoH :) pabnISchu' lut Daqonbogh. (tlhoS pabchu'bogh lut vIlaj je). -DeSDu'

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Klingon Word of the Day: ghoS
by Klingon Word of the Day 09 Jun '18

09 Jun '18

Klingon Word of the Day for Saturday, June 09, 2018 Klingon word: ghoS Part of speech: verb Definition: approach, go away from, proceed, come, follow (a course) Source: TKD (87 KE, 157 EK) This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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“We share with each other” / machqu'bej qo'maj
by Daniel Dadap 09 Jun '18

09 Jun '18

(Sorry for spamming the list so much lately, I’ve been having a fit of inspiration.) What’s the correct way to say “we share a thing with each other”? The direct object of {bon} is supposed to be the thing being shared, so neither {Doch mabon'egh} nor {Doch mabonchuq} seem right (and changing the prefix to {wI-} just seems to make things worse). {maHvaD Doch wIbon} seems awkward, but I don’t see any reason why it wouldn’t be that. The actual thing I want to express is “we share the world with each other”, and within this context, I think {HochvaD qo' wIbon} works fine and avoids the awkwardness I perceived with {maHvaD X wI-Y}. It just made me curious as to how this would be expressed more generally. Anyway, I was reconstructing the original Klingon lyrics of another song when this question came up; as usual, all suggestions for improvement are welcome, though I’ll only bother trying to fix grave grammatical or lexical errors since I want to keep the rhyme and meter of the song: qo'vamDaq rut maHagh 'ej rut maSaQ, 'ej rut vay' wItul qoj wIghIjlu'taH. HochvaD qo' wIbontaH, 'ej wISovnISbej maH: mach qo'vam, qo'Hom, qo'maj! machqu'bej qo'vam, qar'a'? machqu'bej qo'Hom, qar'a'? machqu'bej qo'maj, qar'a'? HIja', machqu'bej! wa'[1] maS neH, wa' jul SuD je ghaj qo'maj, 'ej monbogh ghot Daleghchugh, jup Daghaj. Hatlh wavtaHbej HuD'a'mey, 'ej tInqu' bIQ'a'mey, 'ach machqu'bej qo'maj! machqu'bej qo'vam, qar'a'? machqu'bej qo'Hom, qar'a'? machqu'bej qo'maj, qar'a'? HIja', machqu'bej! (It’s a small world, in case it’s not obvious.) [1] The Memory Alpha Page on Qo'noS says pIraqSIS is its only moon; not sure what the source for that is, but if accurate, and tera' bopbe'chugh bomvam, 'ej Qo'noS bopchugh 'oH, then presumably this song was written before the events of Star Trek: The Undiscovered Country.

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DIvI' Hol vIghojlI'
by Daniel Dadap 08 Jun '18

08 Jun '18

*SoundCloud*Daq DeSDu' tlhIngan Hol wab tamey vItu'pu'. lutmeyDaj vItIvqu'. lutmey vIqonmeH mupIlmoH bIH. vaj, pa' lutwIj wa'DIch tu'lu', “DIvI' Hol vIghojlI'”: https://soundcloud.com/user-649584902/divi-hol-vighojli

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qep'a' cha'maH vaghDIch yIghuH
by Alan Anderson 08 Jun '18

08 Jun '18

It's time for another reminder of the upcoming qep'a'! tugh tagh tlhIngan Hol yejHaD qep'a' cha'maH vaghDIch The 25th Conference of the Klingon Language Institute officially begins July 19, 2018. Attendance is on track to be the largest ever. Visit https://www.kli.org/activities/qepmey/qepa-chamah-vaghdich/ to see who is registered, and follow the links to sign up and make your hotel reservations. June 25 is the final deadline for discounted registration, elegibility for the event T-shirt, and the guaranteed hotel room rate. Remember that a paid qep'a' membership also entitles you to extra entries in the 2018 qep'a' Proverb Contest. Visit https://www.kli.org/proverb_contest/ for the entry form and a link to the complete rules. Voting for this year's Wish List {chabal tetlh} is still open. Visit https://www.kli.org/activities/qepmey/qepa-chamah-vaghdich/words-for-dr-okr… to make your preferences known. -- Alan Anderson / ghunchu'wI'

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Klingon Word of the Day: taw
by Klingon Word of the Day 08 Jun '18

08 Jun '18

Klingon Word of the Day for Friday, June 08, 2018 Klingon word: taw Part of speech: noun Definition: road, street, path, etc (physical version of He) Source: qepHom 2015 p.14 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Suffix position: semantically significant?
by Daniel Dadap 08 Jun '18

08 Jun '18

Obviously, position is semantically significant for rovers, but does it have any semantic significance for fixed-position verb suffixes? I wanted to express “I obviously need to be able to speak Federation Standard”, which I initially composed as {DIvI' Hol vIjatlhlaHnISba'}; however, after checking my verb suffix types, realized that this was ungrammatical. However, the grammatically correct {DIvI' Hol vIjatlhnISlaHba'} seems like it should mean something else to me: “I obviously can need to speak Federation Standard.” I ended up writing it as {DIvI' Hol vIghojnISba'} instead, but I’m still curious about this. My intuition tells me that the ordering of the verb suffixes *is* semantically significant, and that in order to say something like what I originally intended, a construction like {DIvI' Hol jatlhmeH laH vIghajnISba'} (or more pointedly, {vISuqnISba'}). I sort of envision {vIjatlhnISlaHba'} as being parsed like ((((vI-(jatlh))-nIS)-laH)-ba'), with each affix modifying the meaning of the unit it is directly attached to, rather than just having all the affixes considered together within the context in which they appear for meaning.

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xifan hol: k and q
by Daniel Dadap 08 Jun '18

08 Jun '18

Hi all, xifan hol seems to have a variant where k is mapped to {q} and q to {Q}, and one where k is mapped to {Q} and q to {q}. The k -> {q}; q -> {Q} mapping appears to be more prevalent, but the other one is quite common, too. I can see pros and cons to both systems, although I personally prefer the k -> {q} version. For my TTS experiments, I’ve been using this particular xifan hol variant, but before I release the helper tools I’ve been using for these experiments to the public, I’d like to make sure that choosing this convention won’t be confusing or contentious, if there’s a large enough population of Klingonists that use k -> {Q}. I could always use XIFAN HOL instead, since I’ve never see. XIFAN HOL with K -> {Q} (since the main advantage of k -> {Q} is not having to explicitly convert q -> {q}.

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