October 2018 - tlhIngan-Hol

voD and mu'qaD veS
by mayqel qunenoS 15 Oct '18

15 Oct '18

I can't.. I just can't ! If I don't write this I'll explode ! At the last qep'a' the word voD was revealed for "drill, bore". As soon as I read it, the english verb "screw" came to my mind, and when I hear "to screw" the last think that comes to my mind is the tightening of screws.. So, I wonder.. If someone said to a klingon.. SoSlI' Sa'Hut luvoD wa'maH verengan mang. or SoSli' ngaghmeH QemjIq voD wa' verengan mangghom. Would he get the meaning ? ~ channgan qIj tera' joH, Qeb joH, luquvmoHjaj Hoch !

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tkd aside..
by mayqel qunenoS 15 Oct '18

15 Oct '18

Besides the information with regards to stress and pronunciation, which are mentioned in tkd.. Have there ever been released in qep'a', qepHom leaflets, or in HolQeD, any more information on stress/pronunciation ? I mean general information as they are written in tkd, not information on regional dialects or individual words. ~ channgan qIj

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Klingon Word of the Day: DaH
by Klingon Word of the Day 15 Oct '18

15 Oct '18

Klingon Word of the Day for Sunday, October 14, 2018 Klingon word: DaH Part of speech: noun Definition: weapons array, bank (of weapons) Source: BOP This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: DuS
by Klingon Word of the Day 15 Oct '18

15 Oct '18

Klingon Word of the Day for Saturday, October 13, 2018 Klingon word: DuS Part of speech: noun Definition: torpedo tube Source: TKD This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Klingon Word of the Day: 'uSgheb
by Klingon Word of the Day 15 Oct '18

15 Oct '18

Klingon Word of the Day for Monday, October 15, 2018 Klingon word: 'uSgheb Part of speech: noun Definition: a noisy bird known to make a ruckus at dawn, likened to a rooster Source: HQ:v10n4p5 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh(a)kli.org)

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Why DaH is an adverb ?
by mayqel qunenoS 15 Oct '18

15 Oct '18

Perhaps it will sound strange, but I can't understand why DaH is an adverb. tuch is a noun and pa'logh is noun; nem, ben, leS, waQ etc. are all nouns. I can't understand why DaH is an adverb. Not that I have a problem with it being an adverb, but I just can't understand why it needs to be different. ~ channgan qIj

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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Silly question of the day
by Lieven L. Litaer 15 Oct '18

15 Oct '18

Am 14.10.2018 um 13:48 schrieb SuStel: > In *qIrq wItlha’taHqu’, *Klaa stresses the *tlha’* and the *-qu’,* just > as you’d expect. It doesn’t answer the question posed. I think it does, depening how you read the question. He asked why he would need the suffix -qu' if he can stress the suffix with his voice. My answer was that {-qu'} does not only stress its preceding syllable, it does more. That's why I quoted Klaa here. Klaa could have said {wItlha'TTAAHH} beut he cided to add {-qu'}, making the taH suffix more than just -taH. That's more than putting emphasis on it. Maybe I did not express my thoughts enough, or I didn't understand the question correctly. Perhabs mayqel can just say if my answer was helpful or not. -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.klingonisch.de http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/Stress

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I must be missing something here..
by mayqel qunenoS 14 Oct '18

14 Oct '18

Watching on youtube videos on pronouncing klingon, there are two things I noticed which confused me. First, I noticed that on the pronunciation of some one-syllable nouns which have the suffix {-mey}, the stress on some is placed on the noun itself (as it should be), while on others the stress is placed on the {-mey}, although it bears no qaghwI'. And the stress is shifted there, although these nouns are pronounced on their own, outside the context of the sentence; so it cannot be happening for the sake of placing emphasis on the plural. Second, and this is the most important, I can't understand the pronunciation of {-be'}.. But before I say what confuses me, I need to write how I understand "what stress is", because perhaps this is were the root of my problem is.. The way I understand it, when we say "stress" of a word, we mean saying slightly louder that syllable. Lets see an example. Two computer enginneers examine a malfunctioning computer. And one of them says, believing he identified the problem, "its the hard DISC", saying the word "disc" a little louder. This is what I understand when I read "stress of a word/syllable". maj.. However, in the previous example, if one of the engineers wonders whether its the hard disc which causes the malfunction, he can say "the hard disc ?". And because he is asking, his voice will pronounce the word "disc", with a "rising tone". maj again.. And now we come to the qaghwI', which as I understand it, is an abrupt end of the sound of the preceding vowel. So, now lets get back to the {-be'}, examining the example of the word {yajbe'}. According to the rules of pronunciation, at least as I understand them to be, I would expect {yajbe'} to be stressed on the {-be'} (i.e. the {-be'} being spoken a little louder), with the voice of the speaker coming to an abrupt end immediately after the {e}. And I would expect, that since {yajbe'} isn't a question, the voice of the speaker wouldn't assume a "rising tone" as it would in the "hard disc ?" example. However, I notice that on numerous occasions of videos I see on youtube, the voice of the speaker does indeed assume a "rising tone". Something which seems to happen not only with the {-be'}, but with other suffixes as well, which happen to bear the qaghwI' and be the last syllable of a word. I can't believe that all those people are doing it wrong, so obviously, I am the one who is missing something here.. And if someone could enlighten me, as to what it is I'm actually missing, I would be grateful.. And qeylIS would be happy.. ~ 'ISterlIng

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Silly question of the day
by mayqel qunenoS 14 Oct '18

14 Oct '18

If in spoken klingon, I'm able to stress the verb suffix which I want to emphasize, then why the jay' would I ever need to use the -qu', after a suffix, while speaking ? ~ 'ISterlIng

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Agreement with pronouns
by SuStel 13 Oct '18

13 Oct '18

Just noticed this line in /paq'batlh:/ DaH mararchuq mayIntaHvIS wa' Dol bIH qa''e' porgh'e' je We are now connected, Spirit and body are one, Until our time comes. What's of interest is the sentence *wa' Dol bIH qa''e' porgh'e' je.* This demonstrates clearly that when you've got a "to be" sentence with a topic as well as a noun, the pronoun agrees with the topic, not the first noun. *wa' Dol* is singular; *qa''e' porgh'e' je* is plural. *bIH* is plural. It's not *wa' Dol 'oH qa''e' porgh'e' je.* -- SuStel http://trimboli.name

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