On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 3:29 AM mayqel qunen'oS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:

qurgh:

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New Words: https://www.kli.org/about-klingon/new-klingon-words/date/

'Internet Daqvam vIwIvDI', pagh De' ngaSbogh 'Internet Daq vIlegh.

tlhoy mu'mey ngaS tetlh 'ej ghorpu'. 'a vItI'pu' 'ej DaH Hoch mu'mey 'ang.

qurgh:

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The words that came from the chabal tetlh have links back to the original requests in case clarification is needed.

vaj, Ca'Non bIH'a' De''e' ngaSbogh chabal tetlh ?

ghobe', "canon" 'oHbe' De''e' 'a lI'. 'a jIDoy'qu' 'ej jIQongnIS. mu'mey yItIv 'ej Daghelchugh jIvemDI' vIjang. qurgh

Also, at the kli.org new words list, perhaps it would be preferable to remove the "" from the entry {'o'mat ghIrI', tI'Im, pIvyoch}. It is slightly confusing to see "'o'mat ghIrI', tI'Im, pIvyoch". ~ hjkhjkhkj

SuStel:

Arced is a word meaning that something is formed in an arc. It's not arched, a word which implies a curve upward.

hmm.. Interesting. I could never have imagined that. Thanks for clarifying. hmm.. Daj.. ngoDvam DaQIjbe' net jalchugh, not vIjallaH. qatlho'. ~ gjjggjjj

majQa'Qa'! mu' qengHoD law' wIHevpu'! DISvam law' mu' qIDmey QaQ. On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 8:30 AM De'vID <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com> wrote:

* If {qalmuS} means "color", how is this reconciled with the note on KGT p.81 that Klingons have no noun for "color"?

Maybe it's reserved for scientific usage, not art. Or perhaps it only started to be used in the past twenty years since KGT came out.

On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 08:30:45 +0200 "De'vID" <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jul 2019 at 15:33, nIqolay Q <niqolay0@gmail.com> wrote:

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majQa'Qa'! mu' qengHoD law' wIHevpu'!

DISvam law' mu' qIDmey QaQ.

On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 8:30 AM De'vID <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com> wrote:

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* If {qalmuS} means "color", how is this reconciled with the note on KGT p.81 that Klingons have no noun for "color"?

Maybe it's reserved for scientific usage, not art. Or perhaps it only started to be used in the past twenty years since KGT came out.

It's obviously a reference to Natalie and Herbert Kalmus. Maybe it's only used for colour in motion pictures.

Here's the relevant contradiction from KGT:

--- begin quote KGT p.81 --- Compared to Federation Standard, Klingon terminology associated with colors is rather limited. First of all, there is no noun meaning "color". There is, however, a verb, {nguv}, which means something like "be dyed, stained, tinted," though it is seldom used except in the phrase {chay' nguv} ("How is [it] tinted?") or when suffixed with {-moH} ("cause") in the form {nguvmoH} ("dye, tint, stain"; that is, "cause to be dyed," etc.) -- for example, {ret'aq nguvmoH} ("He/she stains the knife handle"). --- end quote ---

Or, we caught Maltz lying. He is a prisoner, after all. How much of the language is Maltz lying about? - DloraH

On 7/22/2019 8:30 AM, De'vID wrote:

I have a few questions:

latlh: The page says *ghIl* means /be the mean, be the average [arithmetic mean]./ Is this meant to be an imprecise layman's term (since the mean and the average are different things), or does it actually mean /arithmetic mean,/ and /average/ is just in there to (imprecisely) guide a layman's understanding of what a /mean/ is? Or is it some mathematical term that is somehow both a mean and an average? -- SuStel http://trimboli.name

On 7/22/2019 9:58 AM, Jeffrey Clark wrote:

A mean is a type of mathematical average (mean, median, and mode being the three kinds). The definition is precise and unambiguous.

Hagh qoHpu' neH HeghtaHvIS SuvwI'pu'! -- SuStel http://trimboli.name

mI’ poj tej ghaH parmaqqay’e’, ‘ej {botlh} {ghIl} wIghajmo’ Quch. Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 22, 2019, at 12:48, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:

Maltz also revealed the noun {botlh} “median [of a group of numbers]”.

Sometimes it’s useful to see the other words revealed at the same time; alphabetical listings obscure possible relationships so you’ll need to examine the entire list. By my count, there are seven new number or math-related items:

botlh median [of a group of numbers] (n) ghIl be the mean, be the average [arithmetic mean] (v)

ghIqtu' mathematical or chemical formula [representation in symbols] (n) wItte' mathematical equation (n)

mun'a' unit of area (n) [A {mun'a'} is 729 {morghmey}.] [Revealed at qep’a’ 2016, a {morgh} is 27 square {'ujmey}. (Voragh)]

Haw be random, arbitrary, unpredictable, fortuitous (v) [For random numbers, as when throwing dice, use the verb {'al} “float” instead of {Haw}. {mI' 'al} “(a) random number”; {'al mI'} “the number is random”. There is also a slang expression {Du'Hom mI'} “random number” (literally “garden number”).]

loch be a fraction of, make up a portion of, constitute part of (v) [{wej loch cha'} 2/3; {vagh loch wej} 3/5; {loS loch jav} 6/4. In theory, if appropriate in a mathematical discussion, one could say {wa' loch wej} “three one-ths”. (Though perhaps a little grammatically aberrant, this would not be {wa' luloch wej}.)]

-- Voragh Ca'Non Master of the Klingons

From: Jeffrey Clark

A mean is a type of mathematical average (mean, median, and mode being the three kinds). The definition is precise and unambiguous.

On Jul 22, 2019, at 09:55, SuStel wrote:

On 7/22/2019 8:30 AM, De'vID wrote: The page says ghIl means be the mean, be the average [arithmetic mean]. Is this meant to be an imprecise layman's term (since the mean and the average are different things), or does it actually mean arithmetic mean, and average is just in there to (imprecisely) guide a layman's understanding of what a mean is? Or is it some mathematical term that is somehow both a mean and an average?

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On Mon, 22 Jul 2019 at 18:48, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:

*mun'a' *unit of area (n) [A {*mun'a'}* is 729 {*morghmey*}.]

I wonder if *{mun} means anything, even if it's obsolete/archaic. Ditto for *{qIr} from {qIr'a'}. -- De'vID

On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 at 17:03, nIqolay Q <niqolay0@gmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 8:30 AM De'vID <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com> wrote:

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* What does *{roSqa'} mean in {roSqa'QeD}, if anything?

I've heard that an old archeology trick for telling bone from stone is to lick it, since fossil bone is more porous and will stick to your wet tongue a bit. Klingon archeologists are obviously more rigorous when they apply this test, and require licking it again (*roSqa'*) to get two data points.

The out-of-universe origin might be a reference to Marton Roska, a pioneer of scientific archeology: https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roska_Márton https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Șanțul_Mare -- De'vID

ghItlhpu' De'vID, jatlhpu':

What does *{roSqa'} mean in {roSqa'QeD}, if anything?

jangpu' nIqolay, jatlhpu':

I've heard that an old archeology trick for telling bone from stone is to lick it, since fossil bone is more porous and will stick to your wet tongue a bit.

teH mIwvam. 'e' vIwoqlaH. :P This is a good thought, though why the -qa' would be there is beyond me. jangpu' je De'vID, jatlh:

The out-of-universe origin might be a reference to Marton Roska, a pioneer of scientific archeology: https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roska_Márton<https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roska_M%C3%A1rton> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Șanțul_Mare But maybe that's too obscure?

Let me put it this way: I'm a professional archaeologist and I've never heard of Márton Roska. It's always possible, I suppose, but an archaeologist who (with all respect to Márton Roska) died in 1961 and only has Hungarian and Esperanto Wikipedia pages strikes me as a very long reach. I'm stumped, to be frank. I'll be very interested to hear others' ideas on this one. I think I do have the pun on jaghIv rhythm, though: read the word forwards, then read it backwards. :) QeS 'utlh

Has anyone pointed out yet that Hoy “sophisticated” is likely an antonymic reference to hoi polloi? Doug On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 10:16 AM nIqolay Q <niqolay0@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 5:58 AM Rhona Fenwick <qeslagh@hotmail.com> wrote:

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teH mIwvam. 'e' vIwoqlaH. :P

This is a good thought, though why the -*qa'* would be there is beyond me.

*ghaytan mu' qID meqna' 'oHbe' meqvetlh'e'. Dochmey loS roSqa'tejpu' 'e' vIrIch neH vIneH.*

On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 9:56 AM Alan Anderson <qunchuy@alcaco.net> wrote:

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You’re telling us that archeologists are concerned with re-licks?

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On Jul 24, 2019, at 10:56 AM, nIqolay Q <niqolay0@gmail.com> wrote:

I've heard that an old archeology trick for telling bone from stone is to lick it, since fossil bone is more porous and will stick to your wet tongue a bit. Klingon archeologists are obviously more rigorous when they apply this test, and require licking it again (roSqa') to get two data points.

You’re telling us that archeologists are concerned with re-licks? -- ghunchu'wI'

On 7/22/2019 10:19 AM, nIqolay Q wrote:

On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 10:15 AM SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name <mailto:sustel@trimboli.name>> wrote:

On 7/22/2019 2:52 AM, qurgh lungqIj wrote:

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This is a summery of all the new information we gained. Most of it is also included on the new words list, but I compiled it all together for ease of reference.

*Hoy* is /be refined, be fancy, be sophisticated [pertaining to culture]./ Does that bracketed note apply only to the final synonym, /sophisticated,/ or the whole definition?

That is, does *Hoy* mean /be refined, fancy, not boorish/ or /be refined in a cultural sense, fancy in a cultural sense, sophisticated in a cultural sense/?

I suspect the bracketed note applies to "sophisticated" to distinguish it from the sense of "advanced" (as in "This engineering is quite sophisticated").

The original request on the KLI page (which I understand MO was provided with) was "Having characteristics associated with the upper class, possibly due to being particularly elaborate or due to arbitrarily culturally valued attributes. 'We are dinner at a fancy restaurant two nights ago.' 'Only a sufficiently sophisticated individual will appreciate the performance.'"

Your first paragraph is the argument in favor of /be refined, fancy, not boorish,/ while your second paragraph is the argument in favor of restricting the verb entirely to a cultural sense. For instance, could I say *'uSqan Hoy*/refined iron,/ or would that only refer to culturally fancy iron? Given the original request, I suspect not, but the written clarification on the new words page is poorly positioned. -- SuStel http://trimboli.name

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On Jul 22, 2019, at 09:49, SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote: On 7/22/2019 10:19 AM, nIqolay Q wrote:

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On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 10:15 AM SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:

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On 7/22/2019 2:52 AM, qurgh lungqIj wrote:

This is a summery of all the new information we gained. Most of it is also included on the new words list, but I compiled it all together for ease of reference. Hoy is be refined, be fancy, be sophisticated [pertaining to culture]. Does that bracketed note apply only to the final synonym, sophisticated, or the whole definition?

That is, does Hoy mean be refined, fancy, not boorish or be refined in a cultural sense, fancy in a cultural sense, sophisticated in a cultural sense?

I suspect the bracketed note applies to "sophisticated" to distinguish it from the sense of "advanced" (as in "This engineering is quite sophisticated").

The original request on the KLI page (which I understand MO was provided with) was "Having characteristics associated with the upper class, possibly due to being particularly elaborate or due to arbitrarily culturally valued attributes. 'We are dinner at a fancy restaurant two nights ago.' 'Only a sufficiently sophisticated individual will appreciate the performance.'" Your first paragraph is the argument in favor of be refined, fancy, not boorish, while your second paragraph is the argument in favor of restricting the verb entirely to a cultural sense.

For instance, could I say 'uSqan Hoy refined iron, or would that only refer to culturally fancy iron? Given the original request, I suspect not, but the written clarification on the new words page is poorly positioned.

If the intent of the requester is worth something, the word as I was requesting it wouldn’t make sense for {'uSqan Hoy} unless perhaps you were referring to a finely crafted blade or piece of art made from iron. I don’t see nIqolay’s observations as being contradictory: the first term, “refined” could still be restricted to a cultural sense (as the context of the other glosses might suggest) even if there’s no explicit note saying so. I just wanted to be clear that the word isn’t meant to refer to things like refined sugar, that an oil refinery isn’t a {HoymoHwI'}, that fancy ketchup isn’t {tomat naH vIychorgh Hoy}, that a “sophisticated” artificial intelligence isn’t necessarily going to be culturally sophisticated, etc. I couldn’t find an English word that captured the meaning I intended that didn’t also have another meaning that communicates a different idea. FWIW, the original idea I was trying to communicate when I made the request was “elevated”, also in a cultural sense, which for obvious reasons I didn’t think could be communicated with {jenmoHlu'bogh}. I wanted to talk about a food trailer that describes its food as “elevated vegan cuisine” but couldn’t think of the right word. In the moment, I used {Soj le'qu'}, which is probably sufficient, and some time later I realized that {Soj qub} would probably have been even better, but I made the request anyway since I figured it could be useful to have a way to describe culturally refined/fancy/sophisticated things that aren’t food. And I think I like {Ha'DIbaH Hutlhchu'bogh Soj Hoy} better for this particular place anyway, since it’s not exactly {Soj qub}; the atmosphere is quite casual. toH. teqSaS (teHaS?) mon DaSuchchugh 'ej Ha'DIbaH Hutlhchu'bogh Soj Hoy DawaH DaneHchugh, vaj “bISro vonIS” yIghoS. 'ej pa' bISopchugh, HISovmoH, qamuv vIneHqu'mo'! https://www.bistrovonish.com/

On Monday, 22 July 2019 15:19:47 BST nIqolay Q wrote:

The original request on the KLI page (which I understand MO was provided with) was "Having characteristics associated with the upper class, possibly due to being particularly elaborate or due to arbitrarily culturally valued attributes. 'We are dinner at a fancy restaurant two nights ago.' 'Only a sufficiently sophisticated individual will appreciate the performance.'"

All these gags are too posh for me, my level seems to be the groaner for Constellation - connecting dots... honestly!

On Tuesday, 23 July 2019 11:44:07 BST mayqel qunen'oS wrote:

I was wondering this for {'nger}. Is this in-keeping with the known klingon phonology ?

Typo. Probably the qaghwI' that fell off {'achler}, so we are told. It's just a confirmation for the existing word {nger} from TKD.

I'm still confused. Do I enter at my dictionary {'nger}, or do I add the given info to the "old" {nger} ? ~ kggkkh

On Jul 23, 2019, at 06:16, De'vID <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com> wrote:

--- begin quote --- The Big Bang -- meaning the start of the universe -- is, as you once hypothesized, {qa'vam}, the word used by Klingons for the Genesis device. {qa'vam} is perhaps best defined as "origin of everything" or "start of it all" or the like. Maltz said you could say {qa'vam nger} "Big Bang Theory," but he thought that was weird -- the start of it all isn't a theory, he said -- it's just the start of it all. If one thinks the start of it all was a big explosion and that's a theory, then {qa'vam nger} could mean "the theory of how everything began," but the Klingon phrase doesn't contain the notion of explosion. For the TV Show -- whether to translate it or use the English -- that's up to you. --- end quote ---

Thanks, that’s a more detailed version of that quote than I think I have seen previously. I’ve seen a quote along the lines of Maltz thinking the phrase sounded weird because “it’s not a theory”, which without further context might seem to support {nger} fitting with the colloquial usage of “theory” if one fills in the blanks with “[the big bang] isn’t a theory[; it’s accepted as a fact]”, but with the full quote it seems more like this was a commentary on {qa'vam} than it was on {nger}; i.e., {qa'vam} refers to the origin of everything regardless of the specifics of how it happened, while the Big Bang Theory is a theory (in the scientific sense of the word) regarding those specifics.

On Jul 22, 2019, at 10:15 AM, SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:

Hoy is be refined, be fancy, be sophisticated [pertaining to culture]. Does that bracketed note apply only to the final synonym, sophisticated, or the whole definition? Comments in square brackets are supplemental information that is meant to apply to the entire definition. If space on the page were not an issue, they would be in their own column.

-- ghunchu'wI'

On 7/22/2019 12:18 PM, Jeremy Silver wrote:

I note we have a new word for byte, {Hut'on}. Is there some joke, or specific alien point that eludes us... or can someone not count?

In computing, not all bytes necessarily have eight bits. Not that I would expect Okrand to be aware of this, as nearly all computing nowadays deals with eight-bit bytes. -- SuStel http://trimboli.name

On Jul 22, 2019, at 11:38, Christa Hansberry <chransberry@gmail.com> wrote:

So we have a word for "dog" now?

vabDot cha' mu'mey DIghaj! cha' cheb neH ngI'mo' qovIj rurbogh SajwIj'e', ngavyaw' 'oHbe'bej. 'a qovIj 'oHbej'a'? Qugh HoD qovIj 'ugh law' SajwIj 'ugh puS. chaq mIt qovIj machqu' qovIjHom joq.

I thought there may be two options on the Hut'on naming ... 1) This could be a name pun. Was there someone named Hutton (Timothy? Lauren?) involved in a project with the word Bite in the title? Was someone named Hutton involved in early computer engineering? I don't have an answer here. But, there are a number of other name puns ("Hook" is derived from the actor who played the captain in the original Broadway production of "Peter Pan"). Perhaps this is an avenue to persue. 2) in the Klingon's olden days base three mathematics, might their byte have been 9, rather than 8 bits? On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 5:25 PM Mark E. Shoulson <mark@kli.org> wrote:

I noticed the {Hut} there too. But that doesn't necessarily mean nine bits. Maybe the name was derived from some one-indexed counting of the bits, and named something relating to its ending at (i.e. before) the ninth bit. Or whatever twisted logic gave the French "huit jours" (lit. eight days) for "a week" and "quinze jours" (lit. fifteen days) for "a fortnight" (which at least comes from "fourteen nights", so the math works out for the English at any rate). Me, I'm going to choose to believe that it's eight bits (an "octet" to be hyper-technical) and named off-by-one because of some... reason.

~mark

On 7/22/19 12:33 PM, SuStel wrote:

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On 7/22/2019 12:18 PM, Jeremy Silver wrote:

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I note we have a new word for byte, {Hut'on}. Is there some joke, or specific alien point that eludes us... or can someone not count?

In computing, not all bytes necessarily have eight bits. Not that I would expect Okrand to be aware of this, as nearly all computing nowadays deals with eight-bit bytes.

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On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 at 15:23, Mark E. Shoulson <mark@kli.org> wrote:

I noticed the {Hut} there too. But that doesn't necessarily mean nine bits. Maybe the name was derived from some one-indexed counting of the bits, and named something relating to its ending at (i.e. before) the ninth bit. Or whatever twisted logic gave the French "huit jours" (lit. eight days) for "a week" and "quinze jours" (lit. fifteen days) for "a fortnight" (which at least comes from "fourteen nights", so the math works out for the English at any rate). Me, I'm going to choose to believe that it's eight bits (an "octet" to be hyper-technical) and named off-by-one because of some... reason.

In case you missed it earlier in the thread, the real reason for the {Hut} is because the pun is based on the name of the actor John Hutton <https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0404632/>. -- De'vID

On 7/23/2019 12:44 PM, Tad Stauffer wrote:

Here are the hidden puns/mnemonics that I've found in the new vocab, that I haven't seen mentioned here or in boQwI':

ba'qIn - get "back in" the saddle

rIq - eu"rek"a

roDSer - "...another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind" - Rod Serling in The Twilight Zone

tIpqan - "Tippecan"oe and Tyler Too - Ash Tyler (from Star Trek: Discovery)

torSIv - Tor Books publishes speculative fiction

'InDogh - syllable - "silly bell"

'IventoH - "Ivan ho!" - Lake Ivanhoe in Orlando once was center of the U.S. pineapple industry

*loScha'*/coincidence:/ A reference to Douglas Adams and the number 42. Strange coincidences play a big role in his stories. *Saghan*/billion:/ Carl Sagan was famous for saying "billions and billions." -- SuStel http://trimboli.name

On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 at 22:03, Alan Anderson <qunchuy@alcaco.net> wrote:

Saghan billion: Carl Sagan was famous for saying "billions and billions."

Not exactly. He was *parodied* as saying that. All he actually did was strongly emphasize the “b” to distinguish it from “millions”.

jatlhqu'bej ghaH: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZmafy_v8g8 -- De'vID

On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 at 23:06, SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:

On 7/23/2019 4:03 PM, Alan Anderson wrote:

Saghan billion: Carl Sagan was famous for saying "billions and billions."

Not exactly. He was *parodied* as saying that. All he actually did was strongly emphasize the “b” to distinguish it from “millions”.

-- ghunchu'wI'

jIHvaD chu' De'vam. mu'IQmoHpu' vIt.

paq pong 'oH je. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billions_and_Billions -- De'vID

I don't remember who it was at the *qep'a'* that pointed out *rorgh* for "is fantasy" and "Mr. Roarke" from the old TV show "Fantasy Island"... ~mark On 7/23/19 12:57 PM, SuStel wrote:

On 7/23/2019 12:44 PM, Tad Stauffer wrote:

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Here are the hidden puns/mnemonics that I've found in the new vocab, that I haven't seen mentioned here or in boQwI':

ba'qIn - get "back in" the saddle

rIq - eu"rek"a

roDSer - "...another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind" - Rod Serling in The Twilight Zone

tIpqan - "Tippecan"oe and Tyler Too - Ash Tyler (from Star Trek: Discovery)

torSIv - Tor Books publishes speculative fiction

'InDogh - syllable - "silly bell"

'IventoH - "Ivan ho!" - Lake Ivanhoe in Orlando once was center of the U.S. pineapple industry

*loScha'*/coincidence:/ A reference to Douglas Adams and the number 42. Strange coincidences play a big role in his stories.

*Saghan*/billion:/ Carl Sagan was famous for saying "billions and billions."

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On Thu, 25 Jul 2019 at 02:21, DloraH <seruq@bellsouth.net> wrote:

I didn't see anyone mention "constellation" yet.

It was mentioned: On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 at 10:26, Jeremy Silver <jp.silver@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

All these gags are too posh for me, my level seems to be the groaner for Constellation - connecting dots... honestly!

-- De'vID

Has anyone mentioned {qa'put} - Capuchin monkey ? And what about the {'oqe'} “coral” (referred to in TOS “Spectre of the Gun”) ! -- Voragh From: tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org> On Behalf Of Mark E. Shoulson I don't remember who it was at the qep'a' that pointed out rorgh for "is fantasy" and "Mr. Roarke" from the old TV show "Fantasy Island"... On 7/23/19 12:57 PM, SuStel wrote: On 7/23/2019 12:44 PM, Tad Stauffer wrote: Here are the hidden puns/mnemonics that I've found in the new vocab, that I haven't seen mentioned here or in boQwI': ba'qIn - get "back in" the saddle rIq - eu"rek"a roDSer - "...another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind" - Rod Serling in The Twilight Zone tIpqan - "Tippecan"oe and Tyler Too - Ash Tyler (from Star Trek: Discovery) torSIv - Tor Books publishes speculative fiction 'InDogh - syllable - "silly bell" 'IventoH - "Ivan ho!" - Lake Ivanhoe in Orlando once was center of the U.S. pineapple industry loScha' coincidence: A reference to Douglas Adams and the number 42. Strange coincidences play a big role in his stories. Saghan billion: Carl Sagan was famous for saying "billions and billions."

I suppose 'angwIl must be from the French word for eel, "anguille"? (Not that I speak French, but I know the Esperanto word is "angilo" so I looked up the translations in Reta Vortaro) -QISta' On Tue, Jul 23, 2019, 11:59 qurgh lungqIj <qurgh@wizage.net> wrote:

I just received an update:

The section on Superimposing has a typo in it. {lalchu'} should be {lanchu'}. I've corrected this on the KLI new word list and the canon page.

qurgh

On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 2:52 AM qurgh lungqIj <qurgh@wizage.net> wrote:

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The new words from qep'a' 26 have been posted to the KLI website.

New Words: https://www.kli.org/about-klingon/new-klingon-words/date/

The words that came from the chabal tetlh have links back to the original requests in case clarification is needed. Dr. Okrand was sent the whole request including the comments.

Grammar Points & SImyon scale reference: https://www.kli.org/activities/qepmey/qepa-chamah-javdich/qepa-chamah-javdic...

This is a summery of all the new information we gained. Most of it is also included on the new words list, but I compiled it all together for ease of reference.

tItIv!

qurgh

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