On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 10:49 AM SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:
Your first paragraph is the argument in favor of be refined, fancy, not boorish, while your second paragraph is the argument in favor of restricting the verb entirely to a cultural sense.

For instance, could I say 'uSqan Hoy refined iron, or would that only refer to culturally fancy iron? Given the original request, I suspect not, but the written clarification on the new words page is poorly positioned.

toH, HIvqa' veqlargh. I had somehow forgotten that "refined" had a meaning that didn't apply to culture, and figured that, out of the three glosses, only "sophisticated" would need such a clarification. wej bIvemchu'pu'chugh, tlhIngan Hol yIta'Qo'.