What am I ? The village idiot ? I just realized that for months now, I've been using the {toH} as the {vaj}. aaargh ! {toH} = so, well (exclamation) {vaj} = so, then, thus, in that case (adv) I can't say: {toH, pa'vo' mej} but I can say: {vaj, pa'vo' mej} If I say {toH, pa'vo' mej} then this doesn't mean "so, he left the room"; it means "so ! he left the room". However the {vaj, pa'vo' mej} does indeed mean "so, he left the room". Why ? Why is it only now that I realize this ? qunnoH jan puqloD
bIQagh 'e' tu' paghchugh, bIQagh'a'? ngemDaq pumbogh Sor rur. Come to think of it, {vaj} is called an adverbial in TKD, but like "so" it's actually a conjunction. It's used for linking two sentences. But it's still chuvmey. ~mIp'av
mIp'av:
{vaj} is called an adverbial in TKD
I'm glad you mentioned it, because I've been wondering about this. There is something here I can't understand. An adverb describes the verb, right ? If I say {pIj qalegh}, then the adverb "often" describes the verb. How do I see you ? Often. But how does the {vaj} describe a verb ? To me it *feels* more as a conjuction, than an adverb. qunnoH ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta' On 25 Nov 2016 9:38 pm, "Ed Bailey" <bellerophon.modeler@gmail.com> wrote:
bIQagh 'e' tu' paghchugh, bIQagh'a'? ngemDaq pumbogh Sor rur.
Come to think of it, {vaj} is called an adverbial in TKD, but like "so" it's actually a conjunction. It's used for linking two sentences. But it's still chuvmey.
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do you mean the {-chugh} on the {pagh} ? Indeed, initially it confused me but finally I was able to understand the sentence. qunnoH ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta' On 25 Nov 2016 10:29 pm, "Ed Bailey" <bellerophon.modeler@gmail.com> wrote:
On 25 Nov 2016 9:38 pm, "Ed Bailey" <bellerophon.modeler@gmail.com> wrote:
bIQagh 'e' tu' paghchugh, bIQagh'a'? ngemDaq pumbogh Sor rur.
chay' Qaghvam maw' vIghIlthpu'? 'a Datu'law'pu' qunnoH, vaj Qagh 'oH'a'?
~mIp'av
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On 11/25/2016 3:29 PM, Ed Bailey wrote:
On 25 Nov 2016 9:38 pm, "Ed Bailey" <bellerophon.modeler@gmail.com <mailto:bellerophon.modeler@gmail.com>> wrote:
bIQagh 'e' tu' paghchugh, bIQagh'a'? ngemDaq pumbogh Sor rur.
chay' Qaghvam maw' vIghIlthpu'? 'a Datu'law'pu' qunnoH, vaj Qagh 'oH'a'?
'ach qayajchu'pu'! qatlh bIbep? ram qar'a' wembogh ghantoH? -- SuStel http://trimboli.name
bong jIQaghpu' 'e' vItu'DI', jatlhpu' SuStel: 'ach qayajchu'pu'! qatlh bIbep? ram qar'a' wembogh ghantoH? maQummeH mangongmeH qoj mareHmeH, rut chIch pab Sovlu'bogh HurDaq wIjaHlaH. qechvam vIlajchu'. 'a qechvam vuSnISlu'. mabuDmo' neH pagh majIvmo' neH, not pab wIwemjaj. chonuSmo' neH, jImuj 'e' DatoblaH'a'? ~mIp'av
On Fri, 2016-11-25 at 21:57 +0200, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
mIp'av:
{vaj} is called an adverbial in TKD
I'm glad you mentioned it, because I've been wondering about this. There is something here I can't understand.
An adverb describes the verb, right ? If I say {pIj qalegh}, then the adverb "often" describes the verb. How do I see you ? Often.
But how does the {vaj} describe a verb ? To me it *feels* more as a conjuction, than an adverb.
qunnoH ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'
It describes the verb as being an effect, the result of another action. In your previous message you had, "{vaj, pa'vo' mej} "so, he left the room". What is that the result of? paw 'avwI', vaj pa'vo' mej "The guard arrived, so he left the room." - DloraH
oh this is beautiful ! DaH jIyaj. qatlho'qu' DloraH ! qunnoH ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta' On 25 Nov 2016 10:47 pm, "DloraH" <seruq@bellsouth.net> wrote:
On Fri, 2016-11-25 at 21:57 +0200, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
mIp'av:
{vaj} is called an adverbial in TKD
I'm glad you mentioned it, because I've been wondering about this. There is something here I can't understand.
An adverb describes the verb, right ? If I say {pIj qalegh}, then the adverb "often" describes the verb. How do I see you ? Often.
But how does the {vaj} describe a verb ? To me it *feels* more as a conjuction, than an adverb.
qunnoH ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'
It describes the verb as being an effect, the result of another action.
In your previous message you had, "{vaj, pa'vo' mej} "so, he left the room". What is that the result of? paw 'avwI', vaj pa'vo' mej "The guard arrived, so he left the room."
- DloraH
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