Assuming that {qamchIyDaq 'uQ'a'} is the original title and "Feast at Qam-Chee" is just a translation, what if it is the translation that is wrong, exactly because of that (in)famous ungrammaticality? Namely, what if {'uQ} is a verb (related or unrelated to the noun {'uQ}, otherwise unattested) and {-'a'} is then, of course, the interrogative suffix? This would mage the whole thing a perfectly grammatical sentence. Qapla'!
Am 14.07.2017 um 11:11 schrieb Michael Kúnin:
Assuming that {qamchIyDaq 'uQ'a'} is the original title and "Feast at Qam-Chee" is just a translation, what if it is the translation that is wrong, exactly because of that (in)famous ungrammaticality?
The other theory is that there is a word omitted in the title, which was originally {qamchIyDaq qaS 'uQ'a'}. -- Lieven L. Litaer aka Quvar valer 'utlh Grammarian of the KLI http://www.facebook.com/Klingonteacher http://www.klingonwiki.net
On 7/14/2017 3:23 PM, Lieven wrote:
Am 14.07.2017 um 11:11 schrieb Michael Kúnin:
Assuming that {qamchIyDaq 'uQ'a'} is the original title and "Feast at Qam-Chee" is just a translation, what if it is the translation that is wrong, exactly because of that (in)famous ungrammaticality?
The other theory is that there is a word omitted in the title, which was originally {qamchIyDaq qaS 'uQ'a'}.
I've had it argued against me that the omitted word was after the full title, as in *qamchIyDaq 'uQ'a' [Soplu'].* But I like Michael's speculation. -- SuStel http://trimboli.name
Can someone paste Michael Kunin's original message, or post a link as to where it can be found ? It appeared in my spam folder, and because of that it was deleted. qunnoq On 14 Jul 2017 10:36 pm, "SuStel" <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:
On 7/14/2017 3:23 PM, Lieven wrote:
Am 14.07.2017 um 11:11 schrieb Michael Kúnin:
Assuming that {qamchIyDaq 'uQ'a'} is the original title and "Feast at Qam-Chee" is just a translation, what if it is the translation that is wrong, exactly because of that (in)famous ungrammaticality?
The other theory is that there is a word omitted in the title, which was originally {qamchIyDaq qaS 'uQ'a'}.
I've had it argued against me that the omitted word was after the full title, as in *qamchIyDaq 'uQ'a' [Soplu'].*
But I like Michael's speculation.
-- SuStelhttp://trimboli.name
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On Jul 15, 2017, at 4:35 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
Can someone paste Michael Kunin's original message, or post a link as to where it can be found ?
http://lists.kli.org/pipermail/tlhingan-hol-kli.org/2017-July/004438.html The recent archives are all at http://lists.kli.org/pipermail/tlhingan-hol-kli.org/ -- ghunchu'wI'
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