mIS (n) mIS (v) and mISmoH
The words mIS (n) mIS (v) and mISmoH, have only to do with mental confusion ? Can they be used with the meaning "because of the accident there was great confusion at the street" ? And can they be used with the meaning of "mixing one thing up with another" ? qunnoq
At the latest qep'a', {mIS} and its variations were confirmed to refer to mental confusion. If by "great confusion in the street" you mean to emphasize that nobody knows what's going on, then {mIS} sounds like it would work. ("Much Ado About Nothing" was once translated as {paghmo' tIn mIS}, literally "the confusion is great because of nothing", although this wasn't done by Okrand and was also done before the latest qep'a'.) It is probably not usable in the sense of "mixing up one thing with another". For that, you could perhaps try a phrase with {ngu'Ha'} "misidentify" or the like. On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 12:18 PM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
The words mIS (n) mIS (v) and mISmoH, have only to do with mental confusion ?
Can they be used with the meaning "because of the accident there was great confusion at the street" ?
And can they be used with the meaning of "mixing one thing up with another" ?
qunnoq
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And if by "mixing one thing up with another" I meant "physically mixing them up" ? qunnoq On Aug 22, 2017 7:26 PM, "nIqolay Q" <niqolay0@gmail.com> wrote:
At the latest qep'a', {mIS} and its variations were confirmed to refer to mental confusion. If by "great confusion in the street" you mean to emphasize that nobody knows what's going on, then {mIS} sounds like it would work. ("Much Ado About Nothing" was once translated as {paghmo' tIn mIS}, literally "the confusion is great because of nothing", although this wasn't done by Okrand and was also done before the latest qep'a'.)
It is probably not usable in the sense of "mixing up one thing with another". For that, you could perhaps try a phrase with {ngu'Ha'} "misidentify" or the like.
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 12:18 PM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
The words mIS (n) mIS (v) and mISmoH, have only to do with mental confusion ?
Can they be used with the meaning "because of the accident there was great confusion at the street" ?
And can they be used with the meaning of "mixing one thing up with another" ?
qunnoq
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I don't think there's a word yet specifically for "mix up" as in "shuffle, rearrange". It might be good to put on the {mu' chu' chabal tetlh} for next year. (Come to think of it, we could also ask for a word for "arrange, set up in some order", though maybe this is another meaning of {cher}.). For now, depending on what sort of thing is being rearranged, you might have to use another verb or noun. Maybe a phrase with {Daq choH} "change the location" or {Qur choH} "change the organization" would work. On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 12:31 PM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
And if by "mixing one thing up with another" I meant "physically mixing them up" ?
qunnoq
On Aug 22, 2017 7:26 PM, "nIqolay Q" <niqolay0@gmail.com> wrote:
At the latest qep'a', {mIS} and its variations were confirmed to refer to mental confusion. If by "great confusion in the street" you mean to emphasize that nobody knows what's going on, then {mIS} sounds like it would work. ("Much Ado About Nothing" was once translated as {paghmo' tIn mIS}, literally "the confusion is great because of nothing", although this wasn't done by Okrand and was also done before the latest qep'a'.)
It is probably not usable in the sense of "mixing up one thing with another". For that, you could perhaps try a phrase with {ngu'Ha'} "misidentify" or the like.
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 12:18 PM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
The words mIS (n) mIS (v) and mISmoH, have only to do with mental confusion ?
Can they be used with the meaning "because of the accident there was great confusion at the street" ?
And can they be used with the meaning of "mixing one thing up with another" ?
qunnoq
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mIS confusion (n) mIS be confused, be mixed up (v) mISmoH confuse (v) (qurgh < qep’a’ 2010): Only used for "mental confusion" (i.e. it doesn't apply to a bunch of things mixed up on a table). See also yay’ “be shocked, be dumbfounded”, Duq “be stunned” (i.e. “be astonished, astounded, dumbfounded, shocked”) - qep’a’ 2017) and mer “surprise”. For physically mixing something, use DuD “mix, stir”. A DuDwI' is a stirring stick: (KGT 97-8) The stick used for stirring in a 'un (pot) is usually called a DuDwI' ("mixer"), though sometimes the term 'un naQ (pot cane) is heard. If the end of the DuDwI' is flattened out, paddlelike, the device may also be called a ngawDeq. --Voragh On Behalf Of mayqel qunenoS And if by "mixing one thing up with another" I meant "physically mixing them up" ? On Aug 22, 2017 7:26 PM, "nIqolay Q" <niqolay0@gmail.com<mailto:niqolay0@gmail.com>> wrote: At the latest qep'a', {mIS} and its variations were confirmed to refer to mental confusion. If by "great confusion in the street" you mean to emphasize that nobody knows what's going on, then {mIS} sounds like it would work. ("Much Ado About Nothing" was once translated as {paghmo' tIn mIS}, literally "the confusion is great because of nothing", although this wasn't done by Okrand and was also done before the latest qep'a'.) It is probably not usable in the sense of "mixing up one thing with another". For that, you could perhaps try a phrase with {ngu'Ha'} "misidentify" or the like. On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 12:18 PM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com<mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com>> wrote: The words mIS (n) mIS (v) and mISmoH, have only to do with mental confusion ? Can they be used with the meaning "because of the accident there was great confusion at the street" ? And can they be used with the meaning of "mixing one thing up with another" ? qunnoq
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 1:15 PM, nIqolay Q <niqolay0@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:
For physically mixing something, use *DuD* “mix, stir”.
{toH!} I had forgotten about this word. Can it be used more generally outside the context of cooking?
I'd assume so. It's from TKD, so it was used in a general sense before KGT added the cooking connection. qurgh
My notes say that {DuD} has been used at past KLI events for “shuffle” – as in shuffling cards {‘echletHommey} for poker *{poQ’ar} (also used at KLI events). I don’t know if Okrand was ever present. --Voragh From: tlhIngan-Hol [mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org] On Behalf Of qurgh lungqIj Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 12:19 PM To: tlhIngan-Hol@kli.org Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] mIS (n) mIS (v) and mISmoH On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 1:15 PM, nIqolay Q <niqolay0@gmail.com<mailto:niqolay0@gmail.com>> wrote: On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu<mailto:sboozer@uchicago.edu>> wrote: For physically mixing something, use DuD “mix, stir”. {toH!} I had forgotten about this word. Can it be used more generally outside the context of cooking? I'd assume so. It's from TKD, so it was used in a general sense before KGT added the cooking connection. qurgh
voragh:
shuffling cards {‘echletHommey} for poker *{poQ’ar}
I need to ask.. If I don't ask, I'll explode ! So, here goes.. Are the {‘echletHommey} for cards (poker cards) and {poQ'ar} for poker, canon ? qunnoq On Aug 22, 2017 8:43 PM, "Steven Boozer" <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:
My notes say that {DuD} has been used at past KLI events for “shuffle” – as in shuffling cards {‘echletHommey} for poker *{poQ’ar} (also used at KLI events). I don’t know if Okrand was ever present.
--Voragh
*From:* tlhIngan-Hol [mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org] *On Behalf Of *qurgh lungqIj *Sent:* Tuesday, August 22, 2017 12:19 PM *To:* tlhIngan-Hol@kli.org *Subject:* Re: [tlhIngan Hol] mIS (n) mIS (v) and mISmoH
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 1:15 PM, nIqolay Q <niqolay0@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:
For physically mixing something, use *DuD* “mix, stir”.
{toH!} I had forgotten about this word. Can it be used more generally outside the context of cooking?
I'd assume so. It's from TKD, so it was used in a general sense before KGT added the cooking connection.
qurgh
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{‘echletHommey} is, but poker (the game) is actually called {'urghwI'}. qurgh On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 1:48 PM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
voragh:
shuffling cards {‘echletHommey} for poker *{poQ’ar}
I need to ask.. If I don't ask, I'll explode ! So, here goes..
Are the {‘echletHommey} for cards (poker cards) and {poQ'ar} for poker, canon ?
qunnoq
On Aug 22, 2017 8:43 PM, "Steven Boozer" <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:
My notes say that {DuD} has been used at past KLI events for “shuffle” – as in shuffling cards {‘echletHommey} for poker *{poQ’ar} (also used at KLI events). I don’t know if Okrand was ever present.
--Voragh
*From:* tlhIngan-Hol [mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org] *On Behalf Of *qurgh lungqIj *Sent:* Tuesday, August 22, 2017 12:19 PM *To:* tlhIngan-Hol@kli.org *Subject:* Re: [tlhIngan Hol] mIS (n) mIS (v) and mISmoH
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 1:15 PM, nIqolay Q <niqolay0@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:
For physically mixing something, use *DuD* “mix, stir”.
{toH!} I had forgotten about this word. Can it be used more generally outside the context of cooking?
I'd assume so. It's from TKD, so it was used in a general sense before KGT added the cooking connection.
qurgh
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{'urgh} “jab, poke” (v) (qepHom 2012) Surely an {‘urghwI’} would be a (fireplace) poker, not the card game? <g> Has it been so used at a qepHom? And before qunnoq asks… {‘echletHom} is one of those little instruction cards used in Klingon Monopoly and {Quj ‘echlet} was the “game board” Monopoly is played on. {‘echlet} alone means “board” – also used in {nItlh 'echlet} computer keyboard, {QongDaq ‘echlet tun} mattress”, {rItlh 'echlet} ink pad, {'eQway’ ‘echlet} mouse pad, {'echlet Hab} touchpad. --Voragh From: qurgh lungqIj {‘echletHommey} is, but poker (the game) is actually called {'urghwI'}. qurgh On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 1:48 PM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com<mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com>> wrote: voragh:
shuffling cards {‘echletHommey} for poker *{poQ’ar}
I need to ask.. If I don't ask, I'll explode ! So, here goes.. Are the {‘echletHommey} for cards (poker cards) and {poQ'ar} for poker, canon ? qunnoq On Aug 22, 2017 8:43 PM, "Steven Boozer" <sboozer@uchicago.edu<mailto:sboozer@uchicago.edu>> wrote: My notes say that {DuD} has been used at past KLI events for “shuffle” – as in shuffling cards {‘echletHommey} for poker *{poQ’ar} (also used at KLI events). I don’t know if Okrand was ever present. --Voragh From: tlhIngan-Hol [mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org<mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org>] On Behalf Of qurgh lungqIj Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 12:19 PM To: tlhIngan-Hol@kli.org<mailto:tlhIngan-Hol@kli.org> Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] mIS (n) mIS (v) and mISmoH On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 1:15 PM, nIqolay Q <niqolay0@gmail.com<mailto:niqolay0@gmail.com>> wrote: On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu<mailto:sboozer@uchicago.edu>> wrote: For physically mixing something, use DuD “mix, stir”. {toH!} I had forgotten about this word. Can it be used more generally outside the context of cooking? I'd assume so. It's from TKD, so it was used in a general sense before KGT added the cooking connection. qurgh _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org<mailto:tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org> http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org<mailto:tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org> http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org
qunnoq, If you don't have a copy of the game, you can see the 'echletHommey from Klingon Monopoly on these pages: https://hol.kag.org/page/monopolycombat.html https://hol.kag.org/page/monopolyhonor.html qurgh On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 2:04 PM, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:
And before qunnoq asks… {‘echletHom} is one of those little instruction cards used in Klingon Monopoly and {Quj ‘echlet} was the “game board” Monopoly is played on. {‘echlet} alone means “board” – also used in {nItlh 'echlet} computer keyboard, {QongDaq ‘echlet tun} mattress”, {rItlh 'echlet} ink pad, {'eQway’ ‘echlet} mouse pad, {'echlet Hab} touchpad.
--Voragh
qurgh:
qunnoq, If you don't have a copy of the game, you can see the 'echletHommey from Klingon Monopoly on these pages:
thanks ! I wasn't aware of these links ! qunnoq On Aug 22, 2017 9:07 PM, "qurgh lungqIj" <qurgh@wizage.net> wrote:
qunnoq,
If you don't have a copy of the game, you can see the 'echletHommey from Klingon Monopoly on these pages:
https://hol.kag.org/page/monopolycombat.html
https://hol.kag.org/page/monopolyhonor.html
qurgh
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 2:04 PM, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:
And before qunnoq asks… {‘echletHom} is one of those little instruction cards used in Klingon Monopoly and {Quj ‘echlet} was the “game board” Monopoly is played on. {‘echlet} alone means “board” – also used in {nItlh 'echlet} computer keyboard, {QongDaq ‘echlet tun} mattress”, {rItlh 'echlet} ink pad, {'eQway’ ‘echlet} mouse pad, {'echlet Hab} touchpad.
--Voragh
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As used in Monopoly: Chance 'echletHommey Community Chest 'echletHommey je qa' quv 'echletHommey vIq 'echletHommey je COMBAT and HONOR cards replace Chance and Community Chest cards. MKE cha'maH chorgh yer ghajwI' chaw' 'echletHommey, wa'maH jav quv 'echletHommey, wa'maH jav vIq 'echletHommey... 28 Title Deed cards, 16 COMBAT cards, 16 HONOR cards... MKE (contents list) 'echletHom Dopvam yIcha' card must be turned this side up MKE Voragh From: tlhIngan-Hol [mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org] On Behalf Of Steven Boozer Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 1:05 PM To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] mIS (n) mIS (v) and mISmoH {'urgh} “jab, poke” (v) (qepHom 2012) Surely an {‘urghwI’} would be a (fireplace) poker, not the card game? <g> Has it been so used at a qepHom? And before qunnoq asks… {‘echletHom} is one of those little instruction cards used in Klingon Monopoly and {Quj ‘echlet} was the “game board” Monopoly is played on. {‘echlet} alone means “board” – also used in {nItlh 'echlet} computer keyboard, {QongDaq ‘echlet tun} mattress”, {rItlh 'echlet} ink pad, {'eQway’ ‘echlet} mouse pad, {'echlet Hab} touchpad. --Voragh From: qurgh lungqIj {‘echletHommey} is, but poker (the game) is actually called {'urghwI'}. qurgh On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 1:48 PM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com<mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com>> wrote: voragh:
shuffling cards {‘echletHommey} for poker *{poQ’ar}
I need to ask.. If I don't ask, I'll explode ! So, here goes.. Are the {‘echletHommey} for cards (poker cards) and {poQ'ar} for poker, canon ? qunnoq On Aug 22, 2017 8:43 PM, "Steven Boozer" <sboozer@uchicago.edu<mailto:sboozer@uchicago.edu>> wrote: My notes say that {DuD} has been used at past KLI events for “shuffle” – as in shuffling cards {‘echletHommey} for poker *{poQ’ar} (also used at KLI events). I don’t know if Okrand was ever present. --Voragh From: tlhIngan-Hol [mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org<mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org>] On Behalf Of qurgh lungqIj Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 12:19 PM To: tlhIngan-Hol@kli.org<mailto:tlhIngan-Hol@kli.org> Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] mIS (n) mIS (v) and mISmoH On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 1:15 PM, nIqolay Q <niqolay0@gmail.com<mailto:niqolay0@gmail.com>> wrote: On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu<mailto:sboozer@uchicago.edu>> wrote: For physically mixing something, use DuD “mix, stir”. {toH!} I had forgotten about this word. Can it be used more generally outside the context of cooking? I'd assume so. It's from TKD, so it was used in a general sense before KGT added the cooking connection. qurgh _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org<mailto:tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org> http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org<mailto:tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org> http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org
"Maltz said the card games he’d seen on Earth were all new to him and didn’t match up with any Klingon games he was familiar with. Nevertheless, he’d become rather fond of one game, which he calls ’urghwI’ (“one that jabs or pokes”), a name he made up based on what he thought the Federation Standard name of the game was (but other Klingons probably would not understand this word in this sense)"
Are the above a direct quote from 'oqranD ? qunnoq On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 9:26 PM, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:
As used in Monopoly:
Chance 'echletHommey Community Chest 'echletHommey je qa' quv 'echletHommey vIq 'echletHommey je
COMBAT and HONOR cards replace Chance and Community Chest cards. MKE
cha'maH chorgh yer ghajwI' chaw' 'echletHommey, wa'maH jav quv 'echletHommey, wa'maH jav
vIq 'echletHommey...
28 Title Deed cards, 16 COMBAT cards, 16 HONOR cards... MKE (contents list)
'echletHom Dopvam yIcha'
card must be turned this side up MKE
Voragh
From: tlhIngan-Hol [mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org] On Behalf Of Steven Boozer Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 1:05 PM To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] mIS (n) mIS (v) and mISmoH
{'urgh} “jab, poke” (v) (qepHom 2012)
Surely an {‘urghwI’} would be a (fireplace) poker, not the card game? <g> Has it been so used at a qepHom?
And before qunnoq asks… {‘echletHom} is one of those little instruction cards used in Klingon Monopoly and {Quj ‘echlet} was the “game board” Monopoly is played on. {‘echlet} alone means “board” – also used in {nItlh 'echlet} computer keyboard, {QongDaq ‘echlet tun} mattress”, {rItlh 'echlet} ink pad, {'eQway’ ‘echlet} mouse pad, {'echlet Hab} touchpad.
--Voragh
From: qurgh lungqIj
{‘echletHommey} is, but poker (the game) is actually called {'urghwI'}.
qurgh
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 1:48 PM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
voragh:
shuffling cards {‘echletHommey} for poker *{poQ’ar}
I need to ask.. If I don't ask, I'll explode ! So, here goes..
Are the {‘echletHommey} for cards (poker cards) and {poQ'ar} for poker, canon ?
qunnoq
On Aug 22, 2017 8:43 PM, "Steven Boozer" <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:
My notes say that {DuD} has been used at past KLI events for “shuffle” – as in shuffling cards {‘echletHommey} for poker *{poQ’ar} (also used at KLI events). I don’t know if Okrand was ever present.
--Voragh
From: tlhIngan-Hol [mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org] On Behalf Of qurgh lungqIj Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 12:19 PM To: tlhIngan-Hol@kli.org Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] mIS (n) mIS (v) and mISmoH
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 1:15 PM, nIqolay Q <niqolay0@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:
For physically mixing something, use DuD “mix, stir”.
{toH!} I had forgotten about this word. Can it be used more generally outside the context of cooking?
I'd assume so. It's from TKD, so it was used in a general sense before KGT added the cooking connection.
qurgh
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Is there anywhere online a full listing of all the text on all parts of the Klingon Monopoly set? Or must I buy a set? Where could I buy or download a set? What price? (I am in Britain.) ----Original message----
From : mihkoun@gmail.com Date : 23/08/2017 - 07:18 (GMTST) To : tlhingan-hol@kli.org Subject : Re: [tlhIngan Hol] mIS (n) mIS (v) and mISmoH
"Maltz said the card games he’d seen on Earth were all new to him and didn’t match up with any Klingon games he was familiar with. Nevertheless, he’d become rather fond of one game, which he calls ’urghwI’ (“one that jabs or pokes”), a name he made up based on what he thought the Federation Standard name of the game was (but other Klingons probably would not understand this word in this sense)"
Getting the game outside of NA is tough, as the company that produced it only has the license to print Monopoly games in NA. Amazon US has copies, as does Think Geek. They may ship to the UK, or you may have to find a shipping service that can forward it on for you. I posted linked before that have the Honoe and Combat cards scanned in. That's a big chunk of the text. I haven't done the property cards yet. Besides them there's just the board and the box. I don't think the money has much on it besides QaS and a number. qurgh On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 4:19 AM, Anthony Appleyard < a.appleyard@btinternet.com> wrote:
Is there anywhere online a full listing of all the text on all parts of the Klingon Monopoly set? Or must I buy a set? Where could I buy or download a set? What price? (I am in Britain.)
----Original message---- From : mihkoun@gmail.com Date : 23/08/2017 - 07:18 (GMTST) To : tlhingan-hol@kli.org Subject : Re: [tlhIngan Hol] mIS (n) mIS (v) and mISmoH
"Maltz said the card games he’d seen on Earth were all new to him and didn’t match up with any Klingon games he was familiar with. Nevertheless, he’d become rather fond of one game, which he calls ’urghwI’ (“one that jabs or pokes”), a name he made up based on what he thought the Federation Standard name of the game was (but other Klingons probably would not understand this word in this sense)"
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On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 2:18 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
"Maltz said the card games he’d seen on Earth were all new to him and didn’t match up with any Klingon games he was familiar with. Nevertheless, he’d become rather fond of one game, which he calls ’urghwI’ (“one that jabs or pokes”), a name he made up based on what he thought the Federation Standard name of the game was (but other Klingons probably would not understand this word in this sense)"
Are the above a direct quote from 'oqranD ?
Well, I wouldn't have quoted it if it weren't, that's not helpful to anybody. It's from De'vID's post to the mailing list on November 16th, 2014, titled "[Tlhingan-hol] geometry and card games". If you don't have it in your emails, you can find it here <http://www.kli.org/tlhIngan-Hol/2014/November/msg00075.html>, although the formatting is screwy.
{'urghwI'} is from November 2014, Voragh's notes might be from before then. "Maltz said the card games he’d seen on Earth were all new to him and didn’t match up with any Klingon games he was familiar with. Nevertheless, he’d become rather fond of one game, which he calls ’urghwI’ (“one that jabs or pokes”), a name he made up based on what he thought the Federation Standard name of the game was (but other Klingons probably would not understand this word in this sense)" On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 1:50 PM, qurgh lungqIj <qurgh@wizage.net> wrote:
{‘echletHommey} is, but poker (the game) is actually called {'urghwI'}.
qurgh
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 1:48 PM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
voragh:
shuffling cards {‘echletHommey} for poker *{poQ’ar}
I need to ask.. If I don't ask, I'll explode ! So, here goes..
Are the {‘echletHommey} for cards (poker cards) and {poQ'ar} for poker, canon ?
qunnoq
On Aug 22, 2017 8:43 PM, "Steven Boozer" <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:
My notes say that {DuD} has been used at past KLI events for “shuffle” – as in shuffling cards {‘echletHommey} for poker *{poQ’ar} (also used at KLI events). I don’t know if Okrand was ever present.
--Voragh
*From:* tlhIngan-Hol [mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org] *On Behalf Of *qurgh lungqIj *Sent:* Tuesday, August 22, 2017 12:19 PM *To:* tlhIngan-Hol@kli.org *Subject:* Re: [tlhIngan Hol] mIS (n) mIS (v) and mISmoH
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 1:15 PM, nIqolay Q <niqolay0@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:
For physically mixing something, use *DuD* “mix, stir”.
{toH!} I had forgotten about this word. Can it be used more generally outside the context of cooking?
I'd assume so. It's from TKD, so it was used in a general sense before KGT added the cooking connection.
qurgh
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Thanks. I missed this one. --Voragh From: tlhIngan-Hol [mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org] On Behalf Of nIqolay Q {'urghwI'} is from November 2014, Voragh's notes might be from before then. "Maltz said the card games he’d seen on Earth were all new to him and didn’t match up with any Klingon games he was familiar with. Nevertheless, he’d become rather fond of one game, which he calls ’urghwI’ (“one that jabs or pokes”), a name he made up based on what he thought the Federation Standard name of the game was (but other Klingons probably would not understand this word in this sense)" On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 1:50 PM, qurgh lungqIj <qurgh@wizage.net<mailto:qurgh@wizage.net>> wrote: {‘echletHommey} is, but poker (the game) is actually called {'urghwI'}. qurgh On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 1:48 PM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com<mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com>> wrote: voragh:
shuffling cards {‘echletHommey} for poker *{poQ’ar}
I need to ask.. If I don't ask, I'll explode ! So, here goes.. Are the {‘echletHommey} for cards (poker cards) and {poQ'ar} for poker, canon ? qunnoq On Aug 22, 2017 8:43 PM, "Steven Boozer" <sboozer@uchicago.edu<mailto:sboozer@uchicago.edu>> wrote: My notes say that {DuD} has been used at past KLI events for “shuffle” – as in shuffling cards {‘echletHommey} for poker *{poQ’ar} (also used at KLI events). I don’t know if Okrand was ever present. --Voragh From: tlhIngan-Hol [mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org<mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org>] On Behalf Of qurgh lungqIj Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 12:19 PM To: tlhIngan-Hol@kli.org<mailto:tlhIngan-Hol@kli.org> Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] mIS (n) mIS (v) and mISmoH On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 1:15 PM, nIqolay Q <niqolay0@gmail.com<mailto:niqolay0@gmail.com>> wrote: On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu<mailto:sboozer@uchicago.edu>> wrote: For physically mixing something, use DuD “mix, stir”. {toH!} I had forgotten about this word. Can it be used more generally outside the context of cooking? I'd assume so. It's from TKD, so it was used in a general sense before KGT added the cooking connection. qurgh
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