On 8/5/2016 10:56 AM, qurgh lungqIj wrote:
On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Rhona Fenwick <qeslagh@hotmail.com <mailto:qeslagh@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Perhaps I'm being influenced by English, where "water ice" is used to speak of frozen water as opposed to frozen methane, carbon dioxide, or so forth, particularly in reports of planetary exploration and such. But {bIQ chuch} feels natural to me for this meaning in Klingon too, and certainly {chuch bIQ} feels entirely wrong.
Saying {bIQ chuch} for "water ice" seems very redundant to me (the English does too) as "ice" is the name for the solid form of "water". I don't think this slang should be carried over into Klingon.
To talk about the solid state of other types of matter we should use {lep}. We have words for all the states now:
Plasma - lI'choD Gas - SIp Liquid - betgham Solid - lep
Outside of everyday usage, English uses /ice/ to refer to any substance that is normally thought of as non-solid when it has been made solid. We use /ice/ instead of some other word because water is the most common substance that we regularly see become solid; we just apply that word to other substances. On the other hand, we have no idea whether Klingon *chuch* has the same usage or can only refer to solid H_2 O. -- SuStel http://trimboli.name