On 9/10/2017 3:06 PM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
nIqolay Q:
{qaStaHvIS ram juHDaq maHaD maH vIghro' je} {juHDaq maHaD maH vIghro' je qaStaHvIS ram}
I understand these two; but could we write too {juHDaq qaStaHvIS ram maHaD maH vIghro' je} ?
What we call a time stamp in Klingon studies is not /any/ expression that tells you when something happens; it is only a noun or noun phrase that does so. *qaStaHvIS ram* is not a noun phrase, so it is not a time stamp. If it were, then /every/ *-vIS* and *-DI' *clause would be a time stamp. Here's how things are ordered in a normal complex Klingon sentence (for "noun phrase" read "noun or noun phrase"): [subordinate and purpose clauses] [time stamps] [adverbials] [syntactic noun phrases] [object noun phrase] [verb] [subject noun phrase ] [subordinate clauses] This is not absolute; you might see Klingon sentences violating this order from time to time. I haven't included possible uses of *neH, je,* or *jay',* or sentences-as-object, sentence conjunctions, comparatives, or copulas. I haven't included special rules changing sentence order like putting adverbials after a noun phrase with *-'e'* (if that really is a change in sentence order). But in general, this is what you build around the basic OVS structure. So you can't write your sentence your way. You've got a subordinate clause between a syntactic noun and the verb, and that's not allowed. -- SuStel http://trimboli.name