On 9/10/2017 3:06 PM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
nIqolay Q:
> {qaStaHvIS ram juHDaq maHaD maH vIghro' je}
> {juHDaq maHaD maH vIghro' je qaStaHvIS ram}

I understand these two; but could we write too {juHDaq qaStaHvIS ram maHaD maH vIghro' je} ?

What we call a time stamp in Klingon studies is not any expression that tells you when something happens; it is only a noun or noun phrase that does so. qaStaHvIS ram is not a noun phrase, so it is not a time stamp. If it were, then every -vIS and -DI' clause would be a time stamp.

Here's how things are ordered in a normal complex Klingon sentence (for "noun phrase" read "noun or noun phrase"):

[subordinate and purpose clauses] [time stamps] [adverbials] [syntactic noun phrases] [object noun phrase] [verb] [subject noun phrase ] [subordinate clauses]

This is not absolute; you might see Klingon sentences violating this order from time to time. I haven't included possible uses of neH, je, or jay', or sentences-as-object, sentence conjunctions, comparatives, or copulas. I haven't included special rules changing sentence order like putting adverbials after a noun phrase with -'e' (if that really is a change in sentence order). But in general, this is what you build around the basic OVS structure.

So you can't write your sentence your way. You've got a subordinate clause between a syntactic noun and the verb, and that's not allowed.

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