On 5/29/2019 12:00 PM, Riley Dosh wrote:
Qapla'!
ghojchoHwI' jIH. tlhIngan Hol vIjatlhHa', 'ach mu'ghom vIlaDlaH. wej ngoDHommey jIHvaD vIghajbe'.
I noticed talk about neutral gender yesterday, which leads me to ask about LGBT terminology as a whole, since it's heavily gendered language.
Concerning trans people, I've defaulted to be' ghe'/be' ghe'pu' and loD ghe'/loD ghe'pu', but I welcome any suggestions.
As for gay/lesbian/bi and straight people, I'm have no idea, although I know it's been at least implied by MO before. Anybody know how one would say that?
Thanks for maintaining this mailing list.
Is *ghe'* your transliteration of /gay?/ Please don't transliterate terms that should be translated. If you can't translate it, keep it in its original form. A very crude way of saying /gay///or /lesbian/ might be *loD ngaghbogh loD*/man who mates with a man/ or *be' ngaghbogh be'*/woman who mates with a woman./ This, of course, doesn't account for the entire spectrum of preferences. You could go on with *loD be' je ngaghbogh loD*/man who mates with men and women/ and*loD be' je ngaghbogh be'*/woman who mates with men and women./ /Trans/ might be *be' mojpu'bogh loD*/man who has become a woman/ and *loD mojpu'bogh be'*/woman who has become a man,/ though this might be insulting to trans people ("I'm not a woman who has become a man; I'm a man!"). And so on. I don't particularly like any of those as translations, but we don't have any information about how Klingons might talk about these things. Klingons are typically depicted as somewhat xenophobic, sexist, and intolerant; they might not be sensitive to these classifications. Since in English these terms are all jargon and re-appropriated pejoratives rather than neutral descriptive words, we might expect LGBTQ Klingons to name themselves in the same way, in which case no amount of searching for the right words is going to give us the right terms. -- SuStel http://trimboli.name