[tlhIngan Hol] Claudian quote

[SuStel]

On 7/26/2024 7:49 PM, Felix Malmenbeck via tlhIngan-Hol wrote:
> I'd probably go with something like:
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> bInIv 'e' chIDbe'chugh jagh Dajeyta'bogh, bIQapchu'ta'be'.
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> *From:* tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol-bounces at lists.kli.org> on behalf of 
> James Landau via tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol at lists.kli.org>
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 27, 2024 12:40:18 AM
> *To:* tlhingan-hol at lists.kli.org
> *Cc:* James Landau
> *Subject:* [tlhIngan Hol] Claudian quote
> Today I came across this quote by the Roman emperor Claudian:
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> "It is no victory unless the vanquished foe admits your mastery."
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>
> Sounds very Klingon-y. Who can make the best translation into tlhIngan 
> Hol?

Too specific. And mastery is more than just being superior. There is 
also a connection between the word *chargh* and the translation /victor./

*bIcharghpu'be' bIghatlh 'e' chIDbe'chugh jagh Dajeypu'bogh.
*/You have not conquered if the enemy you have defeated does not admit 
that you dominate./

As with most translations of pithy English phrases, the Klingon isn't as 
pithy, and I don't see a way to shorten this and keep all the parts.

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SuStel
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