I read [Hoch maH] as " all the us's", "all the we's", as in multiple groups. It is not speaking of the entirety of a single group. As for [maH Hoch], similar to the plural suffix, unless you need to remove ambiguity, then no need to use it. Just use maH. But I can see the possibility of it's use. A: mab wIlaj maH B: chaq bolaj tlhIH 'op neH A: maghwI' vIHoH, DaH wIlaj maH Hoch - DloraH
DloraH:
I read [Hoch maH] as " all the us's", "all the we's", as in multiple groups. It is not speaking of the entirety of a single group
I'm afraid I disagree. If we say, for example, {Hoch vIghro'mey DIlegh}, we will understand "we see all the cats". All the cats our words concern. Whether there is just a single group or more, that's unspecified. Though I doubt, someone's mind will go on to think that there may be multiple groups. So, I don't think someone will understand, that there are multiple groups of cats, and the {Hoch vIghro'mey} is used to describe the entirety of these groups, taken together as a whole. ~ nI'ghma On Jan 29, 2018 03:20, "seruq" <seruq@bellsouth.net> wrote:
I read [Hoch maH] as " all the us's", "all the we's", as in multiple groups. It is not speaking of the entirety of a single group.
As for [maH Hoch], similar to the plural suffix, unless you need to remove ambiguity, then no need to use it. Just use maH.
But I can see the possibility of it's use.
A: mab wIlaj maH B: chaq bolaj tlhIH 'op neH A: maghwI' vIHoH, DaH wIlaj maH Hoch
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On 1/28/2018 8:20 PM, seruq wrote:
I read [Hoch maH] as " all the us's", "all the we's", as in multiple groups. It is not speaking of the entirety of a single group.
As for [maH Hoch], similar to the plural suffix, unless you need to remove ambiguity, then no need to use it. Just use maH.
But I can see the possibility of it's use.
A: mab wIlaj maH B: chaq bolaj tlhIH 'op neH A: maghwI' vIHoH, DaH wIlaj maH Hoch
As pointed out elsewhere, *tlhIH 'op* and *maH Hoch* have third-person head nouns, so you've used the wrong verb prefix. But as third-person subjects these seem wrong, since you're trying for second- and first-person subjects. -- SuStel http://trimboli.name
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