expressing "smashing his head on the table"
I want to say "the romulan smashes the klingon's head on the table". Suppose I write: {raSDaq tlhIngan nach qIp romuluSngan}. If I read this without any context, I'd understand that the klingon and the romulan sit at the table, and there, the romulan hits the head of the klingon (by his fist, a weapon, etc..). Not that the romulan smashes the klingon's head on the table. Could it mean however, that too ? Anyways, alternatively I could write: {tlhIngan nachvaD raS qIpmoH romuluSngan} Is that better/preferable, with regards to the first option ? ~ changan qIj za dashu snaku zigur, durbgu nazgshu, durbgu dashshu
Or should I write: {raSDaq tlhIngan nach mup romuluSngan} ? Or should I write: {tlhIngan nachvaD raS mupmoH romuluSngan} ? ~ sauron Sogh za dashu snaku zigur, durbgu nazgshu, durbgu dashshu
If the (presumably large) Romulan picked the (presumably small) table up and smashed it over the Klingon’s head you could use {moq} “beat (something with an implement)”: (KGT 69): When the parties are ready, a third party, sort of a referee, says {moq}, the signal to begin. The verb {moq} literally means "beat" and it is a clipped form of, perhaps, {vImoq} ("I beat it") or even {vImoqpu'} ("I have beaten it"). In times past, one would hit something (such as a drum) with a stick to indicate the start of the duel; today, one simply says the word "beat". … or {qIp} "hit (with hand, fist, implement)” though, based on all the examples I know of, {qIp} seems to imply either using one’s hand/fist or hitting in general. We do have one useful example: molor qIpmeH wa' chap lo' qeylIS 'ej ghaHvo' yIt Kahless slaps Molor with the back of his hand, and walks away. (PB) So something like: ? tlhIngan nach moqmeH raS lo' romuluSngan. The Romulan hit the Klingon over the head with the table. I suppose you could use {Qach} “wield, swing (a weapon)” if you want to be even more vivid: {raS lo' romuluSngan} “the Romulan wielded the table (like a weapon)”. -- Voragh From: tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org> On Behalf Of mayqel qunen'oS De'vID:
{tlhIngan nachvaD raS ngeQmoH romuluSngan}?
This is nice too. I'd totally forgotten the verb {ngeQ}.
However I still wonder.. Is there a way, that the {raSDaq tlhIngan nach qIp romuluSngan} could mean too "the romulan smashes the klingon's head on the table" ? Or is its only meaning, that " the klingon and the romulan sit at the table, and there, the romulan hits the head of the klingon (by his fist, a weapon, etc..)" ? ~ qnqnqnn romuluSngan maH ! taHjaj !
On 9/10/2019 11:14 AM, mayqel qunen'oS wrote:
Is there a way, that the {raSDaq tlhIngan nach qIp romuluSngan} could mean too "the romulan smashes the klingon's head on the table" ?
Or is its only meaning, that " the klingon and the romulan sit at the table, and there, the romulan hits the head of the klingon (by his fist, a weapon, etc..)" ?
raS qIpmeH tlhIngan nach lo' romuluSngan. -- SuStel http://trimboli.name
On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 18:14:22 +0300 "mayqel qunen'oS" <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
However I still wonder..
Is there a way, that the {raSDaq tlhIngan nach qIp romuluSngan} could mean too "the romulan smashes the klingon's head on the table" ?
Or is its only meaning, that " the klingon and the romulan sit at the table, and there, the romulan hits the head of the klingon (by his fist, a weapon, etc..)" ?
~ qnqnqnn romuluSngan maH ! taHjaj !
raS qIp tlhIngan nach 'e' qaSmoH romuluSngan. raS ngeQ tlhIngan nach 'e' qaSmoH romuluSngan. tlhIngan nach yuv romuluSngan; raS ngeQ tlhIngan nach. - DloraH
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