derogatory, but to whom ?
If I say be'nI'wIj, is it derogatory to me or to my sister ? Or to both ? ~ changan qIj
On 3/21/2019 10:15 AM, mayqel qunen'oS wrote:
If I say be'nI'wIj, is it derogatory to me or to my sister ? Or to both ?
To your sister. It's basically the same as calling her an /it./ -- SuStel http://trimboli.name
On Thu, 21 Mar 2019 at 15:15, mayqel qunen'oS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
If I say be'nI'wIj, is it derogatory to me or to my sister ? Or to both ?
From TKD 3.3.4: It is grammatically correct to use the regular possessive suffixes with nouns referring to beings capable of speech (as in {puqlIj} "your child"), but such constructions are considered derogatory; {joHwIj} for "my lord" borders on the taboo. Students of Klingon should bear this in mind.
-- De'vID
From: mayqel qunen'oS
If I say be'nI'wIj, is it derogatory to me or to my sister ? Or to both ?
To your sister. How would it insult you ? (TKD 25) : It is grammatically correct to use the regular possessive suffixes with nouns referring to beings capable of speech (as in puqlIj your child), but such constructions are considered derogatory; joHwIj for my lord borders on taboo. Students of Klingon should bear this in mind. (KGT 190): Addressing my Lord or my Lady as joHwIj rather than joHwI' is insulting indeed, since it implies that my Lord or my Lady is a lower order of being... The only thing worse would be combining mispronunciation with grammatical blundering, such as by saying joQDu'wIj (my ribs) ... when joHpu'wI' (my Lords, my Ladies) is intended. Mistakes of this kind are simply not tolerated and there are no recorded instances of anyone living long enough to repeat the offense. -- Voragh Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
On Mar 21, 2019, at 10:24, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:
If I say be'nI'wIj, is it derogatory to me or to my sister ? Or to both ?
To your sister. How would it insult you ?
Because she’s *his* sister, so it could be an insult by association. I agree though that it mainly insults the sister.
*From:*mayqel qunen'oS
If I say be'nI'wIj, is it derogatory to me or to my sister ? Or to both ?
I don't know if that is written anywhere, but in the insult {Hab SoSlI' Quch}, the correct suffix is used, because you want to insult the person you are yelling at. Saying incorrectly {Hab SoSlIj Quch}, then you insult the mother, by claiming her to be a thing. -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.klingonisch.de
oh, that's beautiful ! As a matter of fact, once I wondered about that, but although I wanted to ask about it, eventually I forgot.. ~ changan qIj
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