Can I say {wa' jIb}, {cha' jIb}, etc, or does {jIb} mean "all the hairs of the head" ? ~ m. qunen'oS
On 6/25/2019 9:42 AM, mayqel qunen'oS wrote:
Can I say {wa' jIb}, {cha' jIb}, etc, or does {jIb} mean "all the hairs of the head" ?
I guess that it's an uncountable noun, but we really have no evidence. At some point you really just have to take some guesses at these words you're asking about. If you get something wrong, someone will let you know. -- SuStel http://trimboli.name
My feeling is that {jIb} “hair on head” is a mass noun. For a single hair I would use {SIrgh} “string, thread, filament” – {jIb SIrgh} on the model of {baS SIrgh} “wire” (qepHom 2016). See KGT: (KGT 76): Each string is a {SIrgh}, a word also used for any thread or filament. A {SIrgh} of the finest quality is made from a material secreted by insects, similar to the silk produced by silkworms. What I know about {tlhIngan jIb}: (qurgh, 7/28/2017 < qep’a’ 2017): I asked [Okrand] about {jIb}, {pob}, {loch} and {rol} after there was a conversation about it in the Learn Klingon Facebook group. {jIb} is only hair on the top of your head, {loch} is the hair on your upper lip, {rol} is the hair on your face that covers you chin/neck area, and {pob} is hair from the neck down. Arm hair is {DeS pob}. The words cover both the hair and the entire construction, so {rol} refers to a beard as well as the hair that makes up the beard. However, ear hair or nose hair is talked about using {pob}, and {pob} *can* be used to talk about face hair or head hair but it would be considered very strange to do so. DaH jIbwIj vISay'nISmoH I must wash my hair now. PK jIbDaj lumeQmoH qul bIQtIq qulHommey Sparks from the fire river caught his hair PB 'ej bejtaHvIS baS moj jIb his hair … turned to steel before his eyes PB jIb Ho'Du' comb (n) TNK jIb yachwI' hairbrush (n) TNK Mr. Setti (Mott's fellow Bolian barber on the Enterprise-D) noted admiringly that Klingon hair is quite thick and luxuriant, although he suggested Worf start using a conditioning agent as his hair had become dry. (TNG "Schisms") (KGT 58-9): According to Klingon tradition, the first bat'leth was forged by Kahless the Unforgettable, the founder of the Klingon Empire, from a lock of his hair dipped in molten lava. (STC:KLS): The first was forged by Kahless from a lock of his own hair which he placed in the lava from the Kri'stak volcano. He then plunged the burning lock into the lake of Lursor, twisted it into a blade and killed the evil tyrant Molor with it. -- Voragh Ca'Non Master of the Klingons From: mayqel qunen'oS Can I say {wa' jIb}, {cha' jIb}, etc, or does {jIb} mean "all the hairs of the head" ?
On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 15:43, mayqel qunen'oS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
Can I say {wa' jIb}, {cha' jIb}, etc, or does {jIb} mean "all the hairs of the head" ?
{jIbDaj lumeQmoH / qul bIQtIq qulHommey} "Sparks from the fire river / Caught his hair". (paq'batlh, p.86-87) The prefix {lu-} means that {jIb} is singular. Presumably, the sparks didn't burn a single hair, but rather his hair in general. -- De'vID
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