Tell me something. Which of the following would you prefer for "tablecloth" ? {raS tlhIm}, {raS velwI'}, or something else ? 'ej DaH, QongchoHpu'mo' vIghro' tIQ, jIQongnISchoH je. jInajtaHvIS, lurSa' be'etor je vIghom 'e' vItul. ~ m. qunen'oS
Of your two options, {raS tlhIm}”table carpet/blanket” works best. Okrand tells us specifically that {velwI’}refers only to the person who lays the carpet: (Lieven Litaer < MO, 1/09/2012): A carpet or a rug is {tlhIm}. When you lay a carpet, you don't use the verb {mutlh} [assemble]; the appropriate verb is {vel} (cover, coat, mask). … To say "lay a carpet," one says "use a carpet to cover the floor," or {rav velmeH tlhIm lo'}. The person who lays the carpet is a {velwI'} (literally coverer, coater, masker). You might think that the {velwI'} is the carpet itself. That would make sense, but it doesn't work that way. Maltz commented that Klingon rugs are primarily decorative. The idea of a fabric floor covering being thick or soft was just bizarre to him. … {tlhIm} is commonly used for a fabric wall hanging (that might, for example, have a picture of the Klingon emblem on it). If a piece of cloth is displayed at the end of a pole, it is considered a {joqwI'} ("flag"); a {tlhIm} covers some sort of surface. Finally, {tlhIm} can also mean "blanket." Maltz said that Klingons generally don't use blankets (he certainly doesn't), but he's seen them and, if you have to call them something, {tlhIm} is it. (Note however that the captain's quarters of the 22nd century Bird-of-Prey captured by human Augments contained both a padded bed and a fur blanket [ENT “Cold Station 12” and "The Augments"]. ) -- Voragh From: mayqel qunen'oS Tell me something. Which of the following would you prefer for "tablecloth" ? {raS tlhIm}, {raS velwI'}, or something else ?
Oh, this is beautiful.. And, this is *exactly* the reason my ancient cat insists on things such as HQ, past qep'a'mey qepHommey je pdf's, booklets, etc.. Since I've only been here from late 2015, how could I've known this ? Luckily, our Ca'Non master revealed this gem, but the truth remains, that newcomers not having access to Ca'Non past (or a considerable part of it) are jay'ed. ~ m. qunen'oS
Am 25.06.2019 um 11:33 schrieb mayqel qunen'oS:
Oh, this is beautiful.. / how could I've known this ?
Please include the message you're referring to, so that anyone who looks here later, knows what "THIS" is you talk about.
Luckily, our Ca'Non master revealed this gem, but the truth remains, that newcomers not having access to Ca'Non past (or a considerable part of it) are jay'ed.
Not necessarily. There is the new word list of the KLI, the Hol 'ampaS, the boQwI', the klingonwiki, who all try to keep up collecting the information for that reason. -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.klingonisch.de http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/NewWords
The problem with language is that there is such a broad scope of stuff to know. The New Words List and boQwI’ are excellent reference materials, when you know what to look for. Mistakes happen when you don’t know what to look for, even though it’s right there in the reference materials. I think the Word of the Day, and voragh’s contributions and the discussions that follow help prompt one to discover things that one otherwise might not remember to look up. We are fortunate to have a community of members who will certainly remind us when we were unaware of something, or forgot that there was a thing we could have looked up. I certainly look forward to being corrected countless times. Otherwise, why would I keep coming back for more? charghwI’ vaghnerya’ngan rInpa’ bomnIS be’’a’ pI’.
On Jun 25, 2019, at 6:27 AM, Lieven L. Litaer <levinius@gmx.de> wrote:
Am 25.06.2019 um 11:33 schrieb mayqel qunen'oS:
Oh, this is beautiful.. / how could I've known this ?
Please include the message you're referring to, so that anyone who looks here later, knows what "THIS" is you talk about.
Luckily, our Ca'Non master revealed this gem, but the truth remains, that newcomers not having access to Ca'Non past (or a considerable part of it) are jay'ed.
Not necessarily. There is the new word list of the KLI, the Hol 'ampaS, the boQwI', the klingonwiki, who all try to keep up collecting the information for that reason.
-- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.klingonisch.de http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/NewWords _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org
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