We know we can say {'ul law'} for "a great amount of electricity"; but can we say too {'ul 'Iq} for "too much electricity" ? Other than that, is there any other considerable difference between {law'} and {'Iq} ? That is a difference besides the level of "how much", expressed by each. For example, is the {'Iq} only to be used in cases where we want to express something negative ? For example {jagh 'Iq}, or can it be used too in order to refer to something positive, for example {batlh 'Iq} ? qunnoq
On 9/1/2017 10:36 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
We know we can say {'ul law'} for "a great amount of electricity"; but can we say too {'ul 'Iq} for "too much electricity" ?
Other than that, is there any other considerable difference between {law'} and {'Iq} ? That is a difference besides the level of "how much", expressed by each.
For example, is the {'Iq} only to be used in cases where we want to express something negative ? For example {jagh 'Iq}, or can it be used too in order to refer to something positive, for example {batlh 'Iq} ?
*law'* means that, on an overall scale of things, you have a lot of your noun rather than a little. *'Iq* means that there is a point at which you have too much of your noun, and you've gone past that point. *'Iq* is an inherently negative concept. If you have *batlh 'Iq,* that's bad. -- SuStel http://trimboli.name
(IMO, HolQeD 8.3): When tlhoy is used, it denotes that the action expressed by the verb is what is being overly done or done too much. … To express the idea of “too much gagh” or “too many tribbles,” the verb 'Iq be too many, be too much is used adjectivally. For example: yIHmey 'Iq vIlegh I see too many tribbles. qagh 'Iq vISop I eat too much gagh. Sometimes, the word law'qu' be very many (formed from law' be many plus –qu', the emphatic suffix) is translated 'be too many.' If the context is clear, this is acceptable, but if it important to stress the idea of “overly many, overly much, more than there ought to be,” tlhoy or 'Iq is usually employed. --Voragh From: mayqel qunenoS We know we can say {'ul law'} for "a great amount of electricity"; but can we say too {'ul 'Iq} for "too much electricity" ? Other than that, is there any other considerable difference between {law'} and {'Iq} ? That is a difference besides the level of "how much", expressed by each. For example, is the {'Iq} only to be used in cases where we want to express something negative ? For example {jagh 'Iq}, or can it be used too in order to refer to something positive, for example {batlh 'Iq} ? qunnoq
On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 10:36 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
We know we can say {'ul law'} for "a great amount of electricity"; but can we say too {'ul 'Iq} for "too much electricity" ?
Other than that, is there any other considerable difference between {law'} and {'Iq} ? That is a difference besides the level of "how much", expressed by each.
For example, is the {'Iq} only to be used in cases where we want to express something negative ? For example {jagh 'Iq}, or can it be used too in order to refer to something positive, for example {batlh 'Iq} ?
If you want to convey the idea of "more than some amount" in a positive way, or at least a value-neutral way, you could try the new word {vey'}. It was glossed as "be comfortable" at the qep'a', in the sense of "a comfortable income", but the core idea is "be more than enough, be more than is just sufficient". (The notes say it's similar to {yap}, which suggests it refers to the thing that one has a comfortable amount of, rather than, e.g., the person who has the comfortable life.) {batlh vey'} means "more honor than is enough" (where presumably "enough" is measured relative to some cultural standard of minimum acceptable honor), although you could also translate it idiomatically as "honor to spare" or the like. ("Comfortably honorable" would also get the idea across, though that sounds a little weird in English.)
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