new words from #KlingonAlice
Here's a list of all new words that appeard in the Klingon translation of Alice. I'm working step by step to include them and the information into hte Klingon Wiki page. chotlh stare at, gaze at, observe DuHSum lobster Dul sigh; This verb takes no object. ghI'van gryphon [mythological animal with the body of a lion with wings] Halrov treacle, syrup Her'IS bird with a long neck, long legs HIl make someone's presence known HIl'egh make your own presence known HIt think [have an inner conversation] mel'ogh chrysalis mIwba' trial [the process of what happens at court] neSngech dormouse-like animal ngIbvay weird animal found on Kronos that looks like a rock pu'veng twig; also: cat's whiskers qer shrink [get smaller, general] qerHa' un-shrink [grow back to original size] Qa grow (increase in size) [general term] QaHa' un-grow [shrink, get smaller back to original size] rab be gigantic, be huge, be humongous SetqIn (adverbial) alternatively, instead, rather woSwa' armadillo-like animal woSwa' ghew rolling bug [like a pillbug] Some more words appeared that were made fromexisting parts: Durghang qung keyhole joqmoH wave a fan [or anything else] logh'ob chest = front of something (tera') na'ran chang marmalade (lit. gelatinous orange) (tera') na'ran HuH marmalade (lit. orange slime) pob animal's hair or fur qIp knock, hit (with hand, fist...) reD side [of something] reS grow (flowers/plant/vegetables) [as in "she grows carrots"] rewve' mIjDang fan, handheld fan; also: SuS mIjDang Sa'Hut back [of something] SuS mIjDang fan, handheld fan; also: rewve' mIjDang Sut veragh button [part of clothing] tIr ngat bread crumbs vatlhmoH roll up [like a scroll] wuqwI' juror [literally "decider"] wuqwI' ghom jury 'opDIch nth 'oplogh several times http://klingon.wiki/En/AliceInWonderland See a preview of the book here: https://alice.klingonisch.de/english -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany"
On Sat, 13 Nov 2021 at 11:58, Lieven L. Litaer <levinius@gmx.de> wrote:
logh'ob chest = front of something reD side [of something] Sa'Hut back [of something]
When {logh'ob} and {Sa'Hut} are used to refer to an object (which is not a person or animal), do they still take the body part suffix {-Du'}? Is it {DoS tIbuS: Dujmey Sa'HutDu'} or {DoS tIbuS: Dujmey Sa'Hutmey}? Can {reD} be used to refer to the "side" of a person or animal, and if so, can I assume it takes {-Du'}? Previously, this was known only as a word for "exterior wall" and the "side" of a polygon in geometry. -- De'vID
These are very good questions, which I will forward to Maltz. If we're lucky, he might include it in the qepHom-booklet.
Can {reD} be used to refer to the "side" of a person or animal, and if so, can I assume it takes {-Du'}? Previously, this was known only as a word for "exterior wall" and the "side" of a polygon in geometry.
I would say that it does not take the body part suffix, simply just because it is not a body part. -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.tlhInganHol.com http://klingon.wiki/En/AliceInWonderland
I just sent my email too quickly, here some important part that might answer at least one question: Talking about the side of something, as opposed to the front or back… <<<<<<< Use reD “exterior wall” for an object’s surface that’s not the top or bottom or front or back. That is, the use of reD} need not be restricted to structures. If you need to be more specific, you can add in poS “left (side)” or {nIH} “right (side).” If your car was in a head-on collision or someone hit you from behind, your first thought might be “What are the front (hood/bonnet) and back (trunk/boot) of the car called?” The front is the {logh’ob} “chest” (body part). The rear is — as you might have guessed — {Sa’Hut}. (When referring to parts of a car, form the plural of these with {-mey}.)
Printed in Klingon Alice on p. 232 -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.tlhInganHol.com http://klingon.wiki/En/AliceInWonderland
vorlaH'a' Halrov? On Sat, Nov 13, 2021, 03:58 Lieven L. Litaer <levinius@gmx.de> wrote:
Here's a list of all new words that appeard in the Klingon translation of Alice. I'm working step by step to include them and the information into hte Klingon Wiki page.
chotlh stare at, gaze at, observe DuHSum lobster Dul sigh; This verb takes no object. ghI'van gryphon [mythological animal with the body of a lion with wings] Halrov treacle, syrup Her'IS bird with a long neck, long legs HIl make someone's presence known HIl'egh make your own presence known HIt think [have an inner conversation] mel'ogh chrysalis mIwba' trial [the process of what happens at court] neSngech dormouse-like animal ngIbvay weird animal found on Kronos that looks like a rock pu'veng twig; also: cat's whiskers qer shrink [get smaller, general] qerHa' un-shrink [grow back to original size] Qa grow (increase in size) [general term] QaHa' un-grow [shrink, get smaller back to original size] rab be gigantic, be huge, be humongous SetqIn (adverbial) alternatively, instead, rather woSwa' armadillo-like animal woSwa' ghew rolling bug [like a pillbug]
Some more words appeared that were made fromexisting parts:
Durghang qung keyhole joqmoH wave a fan [or anything else] logh'ob chest = front of something (tera') na'ran chang marmalade (lit. gelatinous orange) (tera') na'ran HuH marmalade (lit. orange slime) pob animal's hair or fur qIp knock, hit (with hand, fist...) reD side [of something] reS grow (flowers/plant/vegetables) [as in "she grows carrots"] rewve' mIjDang fan, handheld fan; also: SuS mIjDang Sa'Hut back [of something] SuS mIjDang fan, handheld fan; also: rewve' mIjDang Sut veragh button [part of clothing] tIr ngat bread crumbs vatlhmoH roll up [like a scroll] wuqwI' juror [literally "decider"] wuqwI' ghom jury 'opDIch nth 'oplogh several times
http://klingon.wiki/En/AliceInWonderland
See a preview of the book here: https://alice.klingonisch.de/english
-- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org
The puns in this word list are giving me some more trouble than usual, but I did find one (ROT13'ed <https://rot13.com/>): *zry'btu* "puelfnyvf, nalguvat ba vgf jnl gb orpbzvat fbzrguvat ryfr, r.t. n yhzc bs pynl orvat genafsbezrq vagb n cbg": onpxjneqf, "tbyrz", sebz gur Uroerj jbeq zrnavat (nppbeqvat gb Jvxgvbanel <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D7%92%D7%95%D7%9C%D7%9D#Hebrew>) ) "vapubngr bowrpg, nzbecubhf znff" naq nyfb "chcn" On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 5:58 AM Lieven L. Litaer <levinius@gmx.de> wrote:
Here's a list of all new words that appeard in the Klingon translation of Alice. I'm working step by step to include them and the information into hte Klingon Wiki page.
chotlh stare at, gaze at, observe DuHSum lobster Dul sigh; This verb takes no object. ghI'van gryphon [mythological animal with the body of a lion with wings] Halrov treacle, syrup Her'IS bird with a long neck, long legs HIl make someone's presence known HIl'egh make your own presence known HIt think [have an inner conversation] mel'ogh chrysalis mIwba' trial [the process of what happens at court] neSngech dormouse-like animal ngIbvay weird animal found on Kronos that looks like a rock pu'veng twig; also: cat's whiskers qer shrink [get smaller, general] qerHa' un-shrink [grow back to original size] Qa grow (increase in size) [general term] QaHa' un-grow [shrink, get smaller back to original size] rab be gigantic, be huge, be humongous SetqIn (adverbial) alternatively, instead, rather woSwa' armadillo-like animal woSwa' ghew rolling bug [like a pillbug]
Some more words appeared that were made fromexisting parts:
Durghang qung keyhole joqmoH wave a fan [or anything else] logh'ob chest = front of something (tera') na'ran chang marmalade (lit. gelatinous orange) (tera') na'ran HuH marmalade (lit. orange slime) pob animal's hair or fur qIp knock, hit (with hand, fist...) reD side [of something] reS grow (flowers/plant/vegetables) [as in "she grows carrots"] rewve' mIjDang fan, handheld fan; also: SuS mIjDang Sa'Hut back [of something] SuS mIjDang fan, handheld fan; also: rewve' mIjDang Sut veragh button [part of clothing] tIr ngat bread crumbs vatlhmoH roll up [like a scroll] wuqwI' juror [literally "decider"] wuqwI' ghom jury 'opDIch nth 'oplogh several times
http://klingon.wiki/En/AliceInWonderland
See a preview of the book here: https://alice.klingonisch.de/english
-- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org
Am 18.11.2021 um 04:20 schrieb nIqolay Q:
The puns in this word list are giving me some more trouble than usual, but I did find one (ROT13'ed <https://rot13.com/>):
I agree with your guess, but I do not believe this is such a secret information that it needs to be encrypted. Just say "read it backwards" or provide a wikipedia link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golem -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.tlhInganHol.com http://klingon.wiki/En/AliceInWonderland
On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 at 07:31, Lieven L. Litaer <levinius@gmx.de> wrote:
Am 18.11.2021 um 04:20 schrieb nIqolay Q:
The puns in this word list are giving me some more trouble than usual, but I did find one (ROT13'ed <https://rot13.com/>):
I agree with your guess, but I do not believe this is such a secret information that it needs to be encrypted.
Just say "read it backwards" or provide a wikipedia link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golem
{Halrov} is also a backwards pun: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treacle -- De'vID
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