Klingon Word of the Day: mu'tlhegh
Klingon Word of the Day for Wednesday, August 30, 2017 Klingon word: mu'tlhegh Part of speech: noun Definition: sentence Source: TKD This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh@kli.org).
Klingon word: mu'tlhegh Part of speech: noun Definition: sentence Source: TKD _______________________________________________ AFAIK Okrand has used {mu'tlhegh} in a Klingon sentence just once: lutvam bejlu'taHvIS, tlhIngan Hol mu'tlheghmey chu'qu' vIchenmoHbogh luQoylu'. It's [i.e. ST3] the film for which I devised Klingon... (NASM) and once as a "Category Title" in TalkNow!: mu'tlheghmey Phrases (TNK) SOME GRAMMAR NOTES: (HQ 5.1): The usual term for proverb is {vIttlhegh}, literally "truth rope" and formed, no doubt, by analogy with {mu'tlhegh} sentence or, literally, "word rope." (TKD 59): As in any language, Klingon sentences range from the very simple and straightforward to the very complex and convoluted. (TKD 65f.): What is a single sentence in English is often two sentences in Klingon. (Okrand, HQ 4.2:5-6): What I find myself doing a lot, especially with these Skybox things... The English is these long, long complicated sentences, and I said, "no way," I'd take this long sentence and split it up into two or three. So they went and counted the periods, and said "wait a minute, we gave you two sentences, you're giving us back six, what's going on here?" (HQ 12.2:8-9): For an opera, play, story, speech, and so on, the final portion is its {bertlham}. This word usually refers to the last aria or other musical portion in an opera, last speech in a play, last sentence or so of a story or an address. The {bertlham} of a well-known work is often well-known itself, as is its beginning ("bI'reS}). -- Voragh Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
And even though not canon, certainly worth mentioning: {taH pagh taHbe'} {DaH mu'tlheghvam vIqelnIS.} "To be or not to be," "That is the question." (lit. "Now I need to consider that sentence") -- Lieven L. Litaer aka Quvar valer 'utlh Grammarian of the KLI http://www.facebook.com/Klingonteacher http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/Hamlet
On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 03:00:03PM +0000, Klingon Word of the Day wrote:
Klingon Word of the Day for Wednesday, August 30, 2017
Klingon word: mu'tlhegh Part of speech: noun Definition: sentence Source: TKD
wIghItlhtaHvIS mu'tlheghmey vIchenmoHlaH. 'ach bIghHa'Daq jIHchugh, nuq vIghaj? -SapIr
On Aug 31, 2017 15:20, "kechpaja" <kechpaja@comcast.net> wrote: On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 03:00:03PM +0000, Klingon Word of the Day wrote:
Klingon Word of the Day for Wednesday, August 30, 2017
Klingon word: mu'tlhegh Part of speech: noun Definition: sentence Source: TKD
wIghItlhtaHvIS mu'tlheghmey vIchenmoHlaH. 'ach bIghHa'Daq jIHchugh, nuq vIghaj? qechvetlh 'oSmeH {wuq} lo' tlhIngan Hol. {wImuHlu' net wuqHa'} "My death sentence was commuted." (Star Trek Enterprise episode "Affliction") -- De'vID
muH execute, put to death (v) wa' SuvwI' muHlu'DI', tuHchoH Hoch SuvwI'pu' The execution of but one warrior brings shame to all. (TKW) For custodial sentences one might say *{bIghHa’ poH} or if very long (as they tend to be in the Empire) *{bIghHa’ DIS poH} “jail term, prison sentence”. --Voragh From: tlhIngan-Hol [mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org] On Behalf Of De'vID On Aug 31, 2017 15:20, "kechpaja" <kechpaja@comcast.net<mailto:kechpaja@comcast.net>> wrote:
Klingon word: mu'tlhegh Part of speech: noun Definition: sentence
wIghItlhtaHvIS mu'tlheghmey vIchenmoHlaH. 'ach bIghHa'Daq jIHchugh, nuq vIghaj? qechvetlh 'oSmeH {wuq} lo' tlhIngan Hol. {wImuHlu' net wuqHa'} "My death sentence was commuted." (Star Trek Enterprise episode "Affliction") -- De'vID
voragh:
For custodial sentences one might say
What is "custodial sentences" ? qunnoq On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:
muH execute, put to death (v)
wa' SuvwI' muHlu'DI', tuHchoH Hoch SuvwI'pu' The execution of but one warrior brings shame to all. (TKW)
For custodial sentences one might say *{bIghHa’ poH} or if very long (as they tend to be in the Empire) *{bIghHa’ DIS poH} “jail term, prison sentence”.
--Voragh
From: tlhIngan-Hol [mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org] On Behalf Of De'vID
On Aug 31, 2017 15:20, "kechpaja" <kechpaja@comcast.net> wrote:
Klingon word: mu'tlhegh Part of speech: noun Definition: sentence
wIghItlhtaHvIS mu'tlheghmey vIchenmoHlaH. 'ach bIghHa'Daq jIHchugh, nuq vIghaj?
qechvetlh 'oSmeH {wuq} lo' tlhIngan Hol.
{wImuHlu' net wuqHa'}
"My death sentence was commuted." (Star Trek Enterprise episode "Affliction")
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Custodial sentence - Wikipedia <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Custodial_sentence > "A custodial sentence is a judicial sentence, imposing a punishment consisting of mandatory custody of the convict, either in prison or in some other closed therapeutic or educational institution, such as a reformatory, (maximum security) psychiatry or drug detoxification (especially cold turkey)." -----Original Message----- From: tlhIngan-Hol [mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org] On Behalf Of mayqel qunenoS voragh:
For custodial sentences one might say
What is "custodial sentences" ? qunnoq On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:
muH execute, put to death (v)
wa' SuvwI' muHlu'DI', tuHchoH Hoch SuvwI'pu' The execution of but one warrior brings shame to all. (TKW)
For custodial sentences one might say *{bIghHa’ poH} or if very long (as they tend to be in the Empire) *{bIghHa’ DIS poH} “jail term, prison sentence”.
--Voragh
From: De'vID
On Aug 31, 2017 15:20, "kechpaja" <kechpaja@comcast.net> wrote:
Klingon word: mu'tlhegh Part of speech: noun Definition: sentence
wIghItlhtaHvIS mu'tlheghmey vIchenmoHlaH. 'ach bIghHa'Daq jIHchugh, nuq vIghaj?
qechvetlh 'oSmeH {wuq} lo' tlhIngan Hol.
{wImuHlu' net wuqHa'}
"My death sentence was commuted." (Star Trek Enterprise episode "Affliction")
-- De'vID
Am 31.08.2017 um 16:28 schrieb Steven Boozer:
"A custodial sentence is a judicial sentence, imposing a punishment
This was added to make clear that {mu'tlhegh} is only used for "sentence" as a row of words, but not in the above meaning, like "he was sentenced to death". -- Lieven L. Litaer aka Quvar valer 'utlh Grammarian of the KLI http://www.facebook.com/Klingonteacher http://www.klingonwiki.net
Once during a "knife amnesty" in Britain I saw a notice "the only sentence that you will receive for bringing a knife in here is "Thank you very much ."."; but that play-on-words won't work in many languages. {qIch} = "condemn", so {qIchghach}? qIchghach poH?
On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Anthony Appleyard < a.appleyard@btinternet.com> wrote:
{qIch} = "condemn", so {qIchghach}?
"condemness"? I wouldn't consider it.
qIchghach poH?
Even if the first word were reasonable, not all imposed sentences involve time. I'd just call it {bIj} "punishment", or perhaps {bo'DIj bIj} or {yoj bIj} if I felt like being wordy. -- ghunchu'wI'
There’s also {jIp} “penalty”. --Voragh From: Alan Anderson On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Anthony Appleyard <a.appleyard@btinternet.com<mailto:a.appleyard@btinternet.com>> wrote: {qIch} = "condemn", so {qIchghach}? "condemness"? I wouldn't consider it. qIchghach poH? Even if the first word were reasonable, not all imposed sentences involve time. I'd just call it {bIj} "punishment", or perhaps {bo'DIj bIj} or {yoj bIj} if I felt like being wordy. -- ghunchu'wI'
On Aug 31, 2017 21:22, "Anthony Appleyard" <a.appleyard@btinternet.com> wrote: Once during a "knife amnesty" in Britain I saw a notice "the only sentence that you will receive for bringing a knife in here is "Thank you very much ."."; but that play-on-words won't work in many languages. {qIch} = "condemn", so {qIchghach}? qIchghach poH? naDev taj Daqengchugh, {bIj} neH DaQoybogh 'oH {bIjaH net chaw'}'e'. -- De'vID
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