Klingon Word of the Day: tlhub
Klingon Word of the Day for Thursday, June 04, 2020 Klingon word: tlhub Part of speech: noun Definition: climax Source: qep'a' 26 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh@kli.org).
On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 at 17:00, Klingon Word of the Day <kwotd@wizage.net> wrote:
Klingon Word of the Day for Thursday, June 04, 2020
Klingon word: tlhub Part of speech: noun Definition: climax Source: qep'a' 26
A note should be added that this is a literary term (height of action in a narrative), and specifically not a sexual one. -- De'vID
Not that there would be anything WRONG with that... charghwI’ vaghnerya’ngan rInpa’ bomnIS be’’a’ pI’.
On Jun 4, 2020, at 2:31 PM, De'vID <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 at 17:00, Klingon Word of the Day <kwotd@wizage.net <mailto:kwotd@wizage.net>> wrote: Klingon Word of the Day for Thursday, June 04, 2020
Klingon word: tlhub Part of speech: noun Definition: climax Source: qep'a' 26
A note should be added that this is a literary term (height of action in a narrative), and specifically not a sexual one.
-- De'vID _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org
On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 at 20:43, Will Martin <willmartin2@mac.com> wrote:
A note should be added that this is a literary term (height of action in a narrative), and specifically not a sexual one.
Not that there would be anything WRONG with that...
Does Klingon love poetry have a narrative structure? Given that reciting love poetry is part of the Klingon mating ritual...
-- De'vID
Am 04.06.2020 um 20:31 schrieb De'vID:
Klingon word: tlhub Part of speech: noun Definition: climax Source: qep'a' 26
A note should be added that this is a literary term (height of action in a narrative), and specifically not a sexual one.
Did Maltz explicitely say that, or is that an assumption because the word was requested in context of literature? -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.tlhInganHol.com http://klingon.wiki/En/Hamletmachine
lieven:
Did Maltz explicitely say that, or is that an assumption because the word was requested in context of literature?
If maltz didn't explicitely say that, but someone just assumed it, because of some kind of jay' puritanism, then I pity that person. If this is the case, then some people need to grow up and finally understand, that we are not jay' children, who must not listen to anything having to do with sex. Enough is enough. ~ mayqel qunen'oS
On Fri, Jun 05, 2020 at 11:29:02AM +0300, mayqel qunen'oS wrote:
lieven:
Did Maltz explicitely say that, or is that an assumption because the word was requested in context of literature?
If maltz didn't explicitely say that, but someone just assumed it, because of some kind of jay' puritanism, then I pity that person.
If this is the case, then some people need to grow up and finally understand, that we are not jay' children, who must not listen to anything having to do with sex.
bIlugh, 'ach Do'Ha' 'amerIqa' SepjIjQa'nganpu' wIrIch. reH nenchu'be'.
On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 1:42 AM Lieven L. Litaer <levinius@gmx.de> wrote:
Am 04.06.2020 um 20:31 schrieb De'vID:
Klingon word: tlhub Part of speech: noun Definition: climax Source: qep'a' 26
A note should be added that this is a literary term (height of action in a narrative), and specifically not a sexual one.
Did Maltz explicitely say that, or is that an assumption because the word was requested in context of literature?
The entry for *tlhub* is listed on the KLI new words page as: *tlhub** n *climax [Height of action in a narrative (not orgasm)] For this batch of words, the words in brackets are from Okrand's clarifications. So this is from Maltz.
Obviously, Maltz thinks there are SOME things that are simply none of our business to know. He might think that humans and Klingon sex don’t share a meaningful context. Alternatively, for all we know Klingon sex might not involve a climax. It might be more like an endless battle... … or it could be so intense and brief that there isn’t a boundary between the early stages of sex and a climax. There might not BE any stages of sex before the climax. Since {tlhub} is a word for that part of a story that is different from the rest of the story, it might have nothing to do with sex because sex doesn’t have a part that is different from the rest of sex. There are many possible explanations for why the word {tlhub} might not be a word applicable to the context of Klingon sex, and Maltz simply doesn’t care to elaborate. We don’t even know that Maltz isn’t an asexual virgin who doesn’t even know many details on the topic. That’s one of the problems of having just one guy spilling the beans on the language. charghwI’ vaghnerya’ngan rInpa’ bomnIS be’’a’ pI’.
On Jun 5, 2020, at 11:11 AM, nIqolay Q <niqolay0@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 1:42 AM Lieven L. Litaer <levinius@gmx.de <mailto:levinius@gmx.de>> wrote: Am 04.06.2020 um 20:31 schrieb De'vID:
Klingon word: tlhub Part of speech: noun Definition: climax Source: qep'a' 26
A note should be added that this is a literary term (height of action in a narrative), and specifically not a sexual one.
Did Maltz explicitely say that, or is that an assumption because the word was requested in context of literature?
The entry for tlhub is listed on the KLI new words page as:
tlhub n climax [Height of action in a narrative (not orgasm)]
For this batch of words, the words in brackets are from Okrand's clarifications. So this is from Maltz. _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org
On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 11:28 AM Will Martin <willmartin2@mac.com> wrote:
There are many possible explanations for why the word {tlhub} might not be a word applicable to the context of Klingon sex
I think the simplest explanation is just "they don't describe sex with literary metaphors".
> Klingon word: tlhub > Part of speech: noun > Definition: climax > Source: qep'a' 26
[...]
*tlhub****n *climax [Height of action in a narrative (not orgasm)]
While talking about something else, I mentioned this to Marc Okrand. He made clear that this is not about avoiding to speak about sexual topics. The addition was simply to make clear that in Klingon, there are two different words for these two different things. He also agreed that when using this word for a sexual climax would sound pretty awkward. I guess he anticipated questions in the type of "Can this word be used for xyz as well?" so we now know the answer. There are many cases in Klingon (and other languages) where you have two different words for two different things in one language while the other language might have one word that worls for both. -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.tlhInganHol.com http://klingon.wiki/Word/Tlhub
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