Am 12.07.2017 um 08:27 schrieb mayqel qunenoS:
And here lies the additional problem; As if things weren't already confusing enough, we have the english translations, all translating the {Q} as "kr". As a result, it is so easy to get the impression that its correct sound is "kr" instead of [qχ].
Yes, but remember that any kind of transcription can never duplicate the same sounds, especially if the do not exist. For instance, you know that {tlhIngan} is transcribed as "Klingon", but tlh is certainly not KL. On Jul 11, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Lieven <levinius@gmx.de> wrote:
a) You can easily describe {Q} in Klingon as {q} + {H}.
On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 3:22 AM, <qunchuy@alcaco.net> wrote:
You *can*, but you would be describing the sound inaccurately. {H} is velar; {Q} is uvular.
That is true, but the difference is so slightly, that for a beginner, it still is the best way to describe it. (btw, I had regular discussions that Okrand's H is not always really velar, so the difference is really slightly - but that's another topic I don't want to restart. Okrand confirmed that H is velar.) -- Lieven L. Litaer aka Quvar valer 'utlh Grammarian of the KLI http://www.facebook.com/Klingonteacher http://www.klingonwiki.net