On 6/23/2021 7:47 AM, mayqel qunen'oS wrote:
SuStel:
*nIbe'HalmoH* also seems a poor substitute for /fail you./ Maybe *reH luj* *> DuboQbogh nuv*/people who assist you/ /> will always fail./ Or maybe he's saying the strength of others will always fail you: *reH SoHvaD luj latlh HoS*/the strength of/ /> others will always fail for you./ / / I didn't like the {belHa'} too.. But when I thought of using the {luj} I wondered whether its' "fail" meaning is of the "not win" kind, or of the "I failed you" kind. I didn't know the answer, so I went with the inferior - for the occasion - {belHa'}.
klingonska.org/canon/1993-12-holqed-02-4.txt <http://klingonska.org/canon/1993-12-holqed-02-4.txt> "The opposite notion [of *Qap,* meaning both /win/ and /function/], 'lose,' is commonly *luj,* also meaning 'fail.'" *luj* means both of these things. *Qap* means both /win/ and /function,/ because, we are told, "To a Klingon, to win is to function perfectly." *luj* is the opposite of *Qap.*
jIH:
juppu', qorDu', latlh negh.. tagha' nIteb SIQnIS nuv. SuStel: I'd go with *tagha' nIteb SIQnIS Hoch nuv* /> //In the end, each person must endure alone/ or *tagha' nIteb SIQnIS nuv tlhIn*/In the/ /> end, an individual person must endure/ /> alone./ / / You're right on using {Hoch nuv}! I forgot to double-check with the original, so I didn't see the "each person".
But your suggestion of {nuv tlhIn} confuses me; this use of the verb {tlhIn} seems strange. Reading {nuv tlhIn} gives me the impression that there are many people, and we're talking about someone who is "attributable/particularly associated with something/someone".
It may not have been the best idea. Disregard that suggestion. -- SuStel http://trimboli.name