On 6/23/2021 7:47 AM, mayqel qunen'oS wrote:
SuStel:
nIbe'HalmoH also seems a poor
> substitute for fail you. Maybe reH luj
> DuboQbogh nuv people who assist you
> will always fail. Or maybe he's saying the
> strength of others will always fail you:
reH SoHvaD luj latlh HoS the strength of
> others will always fail for you.

I didn't like the {belHa'} too.. But when I thought of using the {luj} I wondered whether its' "fail" meaning is of the "not win" kind, or of the "I failed you" kind. I didn't know the answer, so I went with the inferior - for the occasion - {belHa'}.

klingonska.org/canon/1993-12-holqed-02-4.txt

"The opposite notion [of Qap, meaning both win and function], 'lose,' is commonly luj, also meaning 'fail.'"

luj means both of these things. Qap means both win and function, because, we are told, "To a Klingon, to win is to function perfectly." luj is the opposite of Qap.


jIH:
> juppu', qorDu', latlh negh.. tagha' nIteb
> SIQnIS nuv.
SuStel:
> I'd go with tagha' nIteb SIQnIS Hoch nuv
In the end, each person must endure alone
> or tagha' nIteb SIQnIS nuv tlhIn In the
> end, an individual person must endure
> alone.

You're right on using {Hoch nuv}! I forgot to double-check with the original, so I didn't see the "each person". 

But your suggestion of {nuv tlhIn} confuses me; this use of the verb {tlhIn} seems strange. Reading {nuv tlhIn} gives me the impression that there are many people, and we're talking about someone who is "attributable/particularly associated with something/someone".

It may not have been the best idea. Disregard that suggestion.

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