On 12/29/2018 10:02 AM, De'vID wrote:
On Sat, Dec 29, 2018, 17:51 SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name <mailto:sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:
On 12/28/2018 10:59 PM, De'vID wrote:
Two verbs to consider here are {tuQ} and {tatlh}. {tuQmoH} and {tatlh'egh} are lexicalised,
How do we know that *tuQmoH* is lexicalized?
I guess we don't know for certain, and it's confusing because it's glossed in TKD as "put on (clothes)", and in HolQeD 2.4, {tuQmoHHa'} (not {tuQHa'moH}) is used with the meaning "take off (clothes)".
I think the gloss /put on (clothes)/ is misleading as to the grammar of *tuQmoH. *I believe *tuQ* works just like any other verb. It's just that the English terminology doesn't use the same grammar as the Klingon that makes it confusing. *tuQ* /wear (clothes) /*tuQmoH*/put on (clothes) /*tuQHa'moH*/undress, take off (clothes) / *HIp vItuQ* /I wear the uniform /*puq vItuQmoH*/I dress the child; I cause the child to wear (something unspecified) /*HIp vItuQmoH* /I dress someone unspecified in the uniform; I put the uniform on (someone unspecified) /*puqvaD HIp vItuQmoH*/I dress the child in the uniform; I cause the child to wear the uniform/ *jItuQHa'moH* /I undress someone unspecified; I cause someone unspecified to un-wear. /*puq vItuQHa'moH* /I undress the child; I cause the child to un-wear (something unspecified) /*HIp vItuQHa'moH*/I take the uniform off (of someone unspecified); I cause someone unspecified to un-wear the uniform /*puqvaD HIp vItuQHa'moH*/I remove the uniform from the child; I cause the child to un-wear the uniform/ -- SuStel http://trimboli.name