On Sat, Dec 29, 2018, 17:51 SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name wrote:

On 12/28/2018 10:59 PM, De'vID wrote:

Two verbs to consider here are {tuQ} and {tatlh}. {tuQmoH} and {tatlh'egh} are lexicalised,

How do we know that tuQmoH is lexicalized? 

I guess we don't know for certain, and it's confusing because it's glossed in TKD as "put on (clothes)", and in HolQeD 2.4, {tuQmoHHa'} (not {tuQHa'moH}) is used with the meaning "take off (clothes)".

I think the gloss put on (clothes) is misleading as to the grammar of tuQmoH. I believe tuQ works just like any other verb. It's just that the English terminology doesn't use the same grammar as the Klingon that makes it confusing.

tuQ wear (clothes)
tuQmoH put on (clothes)
tuQHa'moH undress, take off (clothes)

HIp vItuQ I wear the uniform
puq vItuQmoH I dress the child; I cause the child to wear (something unspecified)
HIp vItuQmoH I dress someone unspecified in the uniform; I put the uniform on (someone unspecified)
puqvaD HIp vItuQmoH I dress the child in the uniform; I cause the child to wear the uniform

jItuQHa'moH I undress someone unspecified; I cause someone unspecified to un-wear.
puq vItuQHa'moH I undress the child; I cause the child to un-wear (something unspecified)
HIp vItuQHa'moH I take the uniform off (of someone unspecified); I cause someone unspecified to un-wear the uniform
puqvaD HIp vItuQHa'moH I remove the uniform from the child; I cause the child to un-wear the uniform

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