I think everyone has expressed their beliefs well and it is unlikely that anyone is going to be convinced to change their beliefs without clarification from Okrand/Maltz. Please feel free to go on expressing your opinions, I'm not trying to shut down the discussion. I just wanted to take a moment to give everyone a pause to take stock of where the discussion currently stands. Jeremy ________________________________ From: tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org> on behalf of Ed Bailey <bellerophon.modeler@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 11:01 AM To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] lawn mower jatlh SuStel: And what is the difference between cutting one's hair and, say, cutting a rope? Cutting a banana? Cutting a presentation? Can you chIp a much? Sorlu'taHvIS, much chIplaHbe' vay' 'ej pe'laHbe'. much vanlaH vay' qoj ghanglaH. Sorry, but when Okrand says hair, he means hair. When Okrand says percussion instrument, he means percussion instrument. When you slap your knees rhythmically, your knees ARE a percussion instrument. When you trim the lawn, the lawn is NOT hair. If Okrand had meant "(e.g., hair)" he would have written "(e.g., hair)." At least until Maltz says otherwise. jIQochbe'. latlh DochvaD mu' chIp Dalo'chugh, bISorHa'. much qonlu'DI' 'a lablu'pa', chaq ngajmoH muchwI'qoq. -- mIp'av yergho bu''a' baHwI' IKAV chuch 'etlh My modeling blog: http://bellerophon-modeler.blogspot.com/ Bellerophon's Scale Modeling Blog II<http://bellerophon-modeler.blogspot.com/> bellerophon-modeler.blogspot.com Just a short update. I finished cleanup of the new vent holes to make them neatly geometrical, so they look like they were made by Germans (or Austrians, rather) and ... My other modeling blog: http://bellerophon.blog.com/