On 1/14/2020 9:05 AM, mayqel qunen'oS wrote:
I've been wondering lately, with regards to using {Hoch} after a noun with an adjective, and more specifically its' position with regards to the adjective.
Assume we want to say "all of the big pie". There are two options:
{chab tIn Hoch} {chab Hoch tIn}
Of the two, my preference would be the first one, since -the way I understand it- it goes like:
"There is a big pie, and we consider all of it".
While the second, feels like it means:
"There is a pie, we consider all of it, and that all, is big".
The only thing which troubles me, is whether it's permissible to actually place {Hoch} after an adjective.
Would anyone like to share any thoughts on this matter ?
Think of the word *Hoch* as meaning /entirety/ or /all-ness./ *chab Hoch* means /the pie's all-ness, the all-ness of the pie./ If you say *Hoch tIn,* you're saying /big all-ness,/ and *chab Hoch tIn* means /the pie's big all-ness./ This isn't what you mean, so it can't be right. *chab tIn* means /big pie,/ so *chab tIn Hoch* means /big pie's all-ness,/ which is what you're looking for. There is no problem putting *Hoch* after an adjectivally acting verb, because you don't consider the verb on its own: it's part of the noun phrase *chab tIn.* Noun phrases participate in the noun-noun construction exactly as if they were nouns. -- SuStel http://trimboli.name