e This a continuation of a discussion having started at the following thread: http://lists.kli.org/pipermail/tlhingan-hol-kli.org/2021-December/018855.htm... There I wrote: http://lists.kli.org/pipermail/tlhingan-hol-kli.org/2021-December/018866.htm... http://lists.kli.org/pipermail/tlhingan-hol-kli.org/2021-December/018867.htm... http://lists.kli.org/pipermail/tlhingan-hol-kli.org/2021-December/018869.htm... In this thread I'll explain in detail why I wrote what I wrote, and what exactly it is that I meant. But because a lot needs to be said, and translated in klingon too, since they don't concern grammar, I'll be gradually adding to this thread each individual post. I'm really sorry that some will be irritated, but the truth needs to be heard. t QIn tlhegh pImDaq taghpu' wa' ja'chuqghach. QIn tlheghvetlh Daq: http://lists.kli.org/pipermail/tlhingan-hol-kli.org/2021-December/018855.htm... pa' jIjatlhpu': http://lists.kli.org/pipermail/tlhingan-hol-kli.org/2021-December/018866.htm... http://lists.kli.org/pipermail/tlhingan-hol-kli.org/2021-December/018867.htm... http://lists.kli.org/pipermail/tlhingan-hol-kli.org/2021-December/018869.htm... QIn tlheghvamDaq Hoch vIjatlhpu' vIQIjchu', 'ej mu'wIj luyajHa'be'lu'meH, Hoch vIjatlhnISbogh vIjatlh. 'a Doch law'qu' vIjatlhnISmo', ('ej pab lubopbe'mo', Hochvam vImughnIS je), pay'Ha' QIn tlheghvamDaq QInmey vIngeH. 'op berghchoHmoH QInmeywIj, 'ej jIQoS, 'a vIt 'otHa'nISlu'. -- Dana'an https://sacredtextsinklingon.wordpress.com/ Ζεὺς ἦν, Ζεὺς ἐστίν, Ζεὺς ἔσσεται· ὦ μεγάλε Ζεῦ