On 6/11/2021 9:38 AM, Will Martin wrote:
But in any case, the whole point here is that in English, we have the noun phrase “Crescent Moon”, sometimes referred to as “The Moon in Crescent”, while in Klingon, we have the fossilized Relative Clause {maS’e’ loQ So’be’bogh QIb} to have that same meaning.
I'm sorry, how did you determine that *maS'e' loQ So'be'bogh QIb* is a fossilized phrase? I mean, it might be, but what evidence supports that determination? Context: *nuH'e' qengbogh mangghomvam luDel 'e' ra' molor lujang maS'e' loQ So'be'bogh QIb lurur* /Molor asks them What weapons this army carries, They reply, shaped as the crescent moon. / (Honestly, I find the other things happening in this stanza to be more interesting. *jang* is back to being a verb of saying. *ra'* is clearly not one, and is translated (from) /ask./ The *lu-* in *luDel* is apparently an error, unless the text is considering *nuH* as a singular class of weapons rather than plural weapons, which would make *nuH* more complicated than we knew or would introduce a new "class" interpretation of nouns.) // -- SuStel http://trimboli.name