On 12/28/2018 6:14 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
SuStel:
naH jajmeywIj bIQ'a' HeHDaq jIyIt In my youth I walked on the beach. My intention here is to imply that I used to walk on the beach; it was my habit to walk on the beach in my youth jIH: If this sentence describes a habit taking place during youth, then shouldn't the sentence be {qaStaHvIS naH jajmeywIj, bIQ'a' HeHDaq jIyIt} ? The way I would understand {naH jajmeywIj bIQ'a' HeHDaq jIyIt}, is that "in my youth, once I walk on the beach". SuStel: The sentence could be interpreted as In my youth I walk on the beach, but only if you're conceptually casting yourself back in time to those heady vegetable days. I'm rather confused here..
In your original sentence, i.e. {naH jajmeywIj bIQ'a' HeHDaq jIyIt}, your intended meaning was the stating of an action while conceptually casting yourself back in time at that moment ? At a moment of a specific walk on the beach, where a crab bites your foot ? An action/event which took place only once ?
Or was the intended meaning that while you were young you were habitually walking on a beach ? i.e. describing an event which was happening regularly ? But an event you're actually re-living at the time of the narration of the sentence ?
Or was the intended meaning, the description of a habitual event which was happening regularly, but without re-living it at the time that the sentence is spoken ?
The point is that there isn't a single meaning to a verb that doesn't have a type 7 suffix; it can be interpreted in lots of ways, depending on the context. You must apply the associated context to get the correct meaning. Two ways it /can't/ be interpreted, though, are perfective and continuous. Look, the rules are just what's in TKD. When an action described is a completed action, you must use a perfective suffix; you can't drop it. When an action described is a continuous action, you must use a continuous suffix; you can't drop it. For everything else, use no aspect suffix. Completed or continuous from what point of view? Every sentence has a point of view that may or may not be the same as the time context or the speaker's present. *wa'leS qaHoHta'*/Tomorrow I will have killed you/ takes as its viewpoint a moment tomorrow after my killing of you. "Place yourself in the moment after my killing you tomorrow. I shall now describe what you see: /I have killed you./" *wa'leS qaHoHtaHvIS*//*jImon*/While I'm killing you tomorrow/ /I smile/ forces the viewpoint to be a slightly earlier point, still tomorrow, but during the act of killing you. It's specifically at the moment I smile. *wa'leS qaHoH* /I will kill you tomorrow/ has right now as the viewpoint, and is looking ahead to a hypothetical action — being hypothetical, it certainly isn't completed. -- SuStel http://trimboli.name