On 3/14/2019 5:08 PM, Will Martin wrote:
The reason I said it was a half effort was that your example specifically excluded the obvious solution because you already knew the word you should be using and instead forced {Hur} into a completely unnecessary role. A full effort would have involved an example that didn’t have a word like {reD} to fill in what you want to argue is a void in Klingon’s capacity of expression that can only be filled by your interpretation of the potential range of meaning of the word {Hur}, which you already know people disagree with.
He's annoyed because he's giving an example as an illustration, not as a problem to solve. He doesn't particularly care about bones; he wants to know how to talk about exterior surfaces of all kinds. You're scolding him for not being interested in your answer about bones.
As for your tumor example, I still don’t see the difference between it escaping from the bone, vs. breaking through the surface of the bone.
He wants to know how to distinguish which surface of the bone it protrudes from; he doesn't care about the protruding part.
It can break through the barrier between muscle and bone or between bone and blood. Here, the significance is less the surface than the system into which the tumor newly invades.
Is there a surface example that can’t be handled with the word {veH}?
I'm not convinced that the outer surface of a pillow would be considered a boundary in any but the most esoteric of discussions. -- SuStel http://trimboli.name