Another option for fruit might be {tun} "be soft", which we've seen modify other class nouns: ghab tun boneless meat from midsection of animal (regional) HomHap tun cartilage ngogh tun pillow QongDaq ‘echlet tun mattress ‘atlhqam tun a type of mold Oddly enough, when {naH} was appended to the names of Terran foods in "Talk Now! Klingon", they all referred to fruit, not vegetables: banan naH banana mengho' naH mango pIlam naH plum ghIrep naHmey grapes per naHmey pears raSber naHmey raspberries Sutra'ber naHmey strawberries tomat naHmey tomatoes [technically a fruit] 'epIl naHmey apples Did I miss one? (Maybe the intended customers for TNK weren't known for eating their veggies!) Klingon do have fruits, but they're known by specific names. E.g. 'IventoH pineapple-like fruit 'epIn peach[-like fruit] peb'ot torpedo-shaped fruit na'ran type of [sweet] fruit Okrand always translates {naH} as "fruit or vegetable". I imagine he's making the culturally-relative point that Klingons simply don't think about sub-classes of {naH} like we do. Being primarily carnivores who moreover prefer their food uncooked, Klingons don't really eat much {naH} and thus don't particularly think much about it -- unless you're a cook. (KGT 85): The Klingon diet consists primarily of animal matter. With a few notable exceptions, plants seldom form the bases of dishes in their own right, though they are used quite a bit in food preparation, particularly as seasoning. (KGT 89): Any part of any plant that is eaten may be termed {naH}, usually translated fruit or vegetable. [...] The outer covering of a fruit or vegetable ({yub} "husk, rind, peel") is always consumed, except in the case of the {naHlet yub} (nut shell) (charghwI' [date?]): I have come to accept that if you eat it, it is {naH}. If it is a plant and you don't eat it, it is {tI}. Perhaps tI includes {naH} as a subset. {San'emDer} "plant" was revealed at qep'a' 2019, long after he wrote that, but charghwI's conclusion is still valid. __ Voragh -----------------------------------Original Message----------------------------------- From: Lieven L. Litaer Am 02.02.2021 um 15:17 schrieb mayqel qunen'oS:
Since we have just one word for both "fruit" *and* "vegetable", how in the glorious name of qeylIS the unforgettable are we supposed to say "the alien loves fruits, but hates vegetables"?
That's really agood question, and maybe there is even a word for this. But until we find out, I would simply make te difference by describing the fruit using adjectives, as in {naH tIv nov, 'ach naH wIb par} Of course that's not clear, since not all naH wIb are vegetables.