bam face, have the prospect of having to deal with (v) (qepHom 2013) Qob lIb bam SoH chuDlI' je You and your people are in danger. STID I'm not sure I see it. If anything, these sound like something a Beginner's Grammarian would call themselves in jest. --Voragh -----------------------------------Original Message----------------------------------- From: seruq Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 8:53 PM How about bampu'wI'? or: bamta'wI' bamchu'wI' or what fine-tuning is appropriate. - DloraH ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 7/13/18, Alan Anderson <qunchuy@alcaco.net> wrote: Date: Friday, July 13, 2018, 12:02 AM I am trying to find a pair of relatively simple words that I can use to label people as the equivalent of rookies (it's their first time experiencing something) or veterans (they've been through it before). I like {chu'wI'} "newcomer", but I can't decide what to use as its counterpart. Have any of you ever needed this kind of distinction, and if so, did you come up with anything satisfactory? -- ghunchu'wI'