e If there is a concept in the klingon speaking community which is systematically misunderstood and misapplied, it is the concept of an "expert". So let's make something clear. The fact that you've translated subtitles doesn't make you an expert. The fact that you've translated whole texts doesn't make you an expert. The fact that you've worked on a klingon learning app doesn't make you an expert. All these can serve to dazzle beginners in facebook, but again dazzling beginners in facebook doesn't make you an expert. At best you're fluent. But there's an abyss separating fluency from being an expert. I speak greek fluently, but I'm not an expert on the greek language. An expert isn't just someone who's fluent; an expert is someone with a deeper insight/understanding of how things work. An expert is someone able to answer the hard questions. And it's really sad to see so many worshiping people who have never answered a difficult question. As long as I can remember, the only two people who have demonstrated the ability to answer questions which no one else couldn't are SuStel and De'vID, and they are the only ones who I consider to be experts in the true sense of the word. Of course, someone can say.. "There are definitely people of similar skill, but they are inactive". True; there may be people of SuStel/De'vID skill in the community who for whatever reason choose to remain silent for years. But now I ask.. If for whatever reason you chose to remain silent for years, although you are a true expert, then why would you be willing to become active again as a member of some "klingon language committee"? Did your life's circumstances just happen to change, on the day okrand chose to retire, allowing you to grace us with your immense grasp of the language? Or is it something else that you seek? And this now is the important question.. "What will be the true purposes of some of the people who will try to replace okrand"? But this is the subject of the next post t tlhIngan nughDaq wa' mu' yajHa'lu'chu'bogh 'ej lo'Ha'lu'chu'bogh tu'lu'chugh, {po'wI'} 'oH mu'vam'e'. vaj vay' vIQIjnISchu': SoHvaD po'wI' nImojmoHbe' mughbogh per DachenmoHpu'. SoHvaD po'wI' nImojmoHbe' tlhIngan Hol ghItlh Damughpu'bogh. SoHvaD po'wI' nImojmoHbe' tlhIngan Hol ghojmeH nIqHom mu'tlhegh Daqonpu'bogh. Doj Hochvam 'e' luHarlaH facebook taghwI', 'a vabDot qaSchugh ghu'vam, po'wI' Damojpu'be'. chaq Hol Dalo'laHchu', 'a pImchu' {Hol lo'laHchu'wI'} {po'wI'} je. 'elaDya' Hol vIjatlhchu', 'a 'elaDya' Hol po'wI' jIHbe'bej. vabDot Hol lo'laHchu'chugh vay', ghaHvaD po'wI' mojmoHbe' ngoDvam. po'wI'na' ghaHmeH vay''e', Hol pab yajchu' net poQ, 'ej vay' Qatlh yajmeH nuv, gheltaHvIS nuvvam, nuvvamvaD janglaHchu' po'wI'vam net pIH. 'a vay' Qatlh luyajmeH 'op, gheltaHvIS 'opvam, not janglaHpu' latlhpu', 'ej Do'Ha' latlhpu'vam QejqangtaH 'op. qaStaHvIS poH Hoch vIqawlaHbogh, Qatlhbogh pab Sojmey DIghlaH cha' nuv neH: SuStel De'vID je. pab Soj Qatlh DIghlaH pagh latlh. 'ej SuStelvaD De'vIDvaD je neH po'wI'pu'na' vIDam. 'a DaH chaq jatlhqang vay': < SuStel De'vID je laH lughajbogh latlh tu'lu' je, 'a jeSbe' nuvpu'vam. > teH; chaq tlhIngan jatlhwI' nughDaq SuStel De'vID je laH lu'aghlaHbogh nuv tu'lu', 'ej nuvpu'vam jeSqangbe'moH vay' Sovbe'lu'bogh. 'a DaH jIghel: < po'wI'na' SoH, 'ej qaStaHvIS DIS law'qu', bItamtaH 'e' DawIv; maj. qatlh pay' bIchoHpu'? hmm? qatlh pay' tlhIngan Hol yejDaq bIjeSqangchoHpu'? pajpu'DI' 'oqranD, ngugh choHchu'pu''a' yInlIj ghu'mey? pajpu'DI' 'oqranD, ngugh maHvaD Sov'a'lIj DabonqangchoHpu'? ..pagh qaS'a' pImchu'bogh vay'? > 'ej DaH potlhchu'bogh vay' wIghojmeH, maghelnIS: < nuq bIH 'oqranD lugheSbogh 'op nuv ngoQna''e'? > 'a QIn vebDaq Sojvam vIDIgh. -- Dana'an https://sacredtextsinklingon.wordpress.com/ Ζεὺς ἦν, Ζεὺς ἐστίν, Ζεὺς ἔσσεται· ὦ μεγάλε Ζεῦ