FWIW we now have the noun {Su'nIm} “raised profile, ridges, pattern (as in fingerprints, tires, shoe tread)” from qepHom 2015. Okrand affirmed at qepHom 2009 that a single forehead ridge is a {vIlHom}. To describe foreheads {QuchDu’} we use {vIl} “be ridgy” vs. {Hab} “be smooth”. Before {vIl} some of us used {ghegh} “be rough” or {tlher} “be lumpy” (associated with food in KGT) to describe foreheads, so I suppose these are available. If I saw *{qab vIl / ghegh / tlher} though, I would immediate think of those latex prosthetics that Trek actors wear on their faces when playing aliens. <g> --Voragh From: Philip Newton On 27 July 2017 at 16:43, SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name<mailto:sustel@trimboli.name>> wrote: On 7/27/2017 12:02 AM, Jesse Manoogian wrote: wrinkle: bentlhegh (age-line) This is an interesting construction, but I don't know if ben can refer to age like that. I've seen ghep used as "age", backformated from the canon words peHghep "Age of Inclusion" and nenghep "Age of Ascension".