If a committee was formed, it should represent the community as a larger whole. As Tim Stoffel said, "enthusiasts", not "experts". As Okrand himself said, those who use the language should influence its development. Not all members must have linguistic background (although some of them should). I don't want the committee to be formed from a clique of friends that have known each other for decades. Instead, it should have members from different backgrounds. The procedure for appointing a member should be open and transparent and handled by a neutral body (so not for example the current KLI that is a private corporation not governed by the community). As for word requests, I want to believe that Klingon is a language one can use to say anything. If that is true, any word request should be able to be answered, as of course one should be able to say the requested thing in Klingon. But the answer might not be a new word, it might be an existing word or phrase that can be used for that purpose. To make sure that no one person can change the language, making up new words or grammar should require a majority vote or an unanimous decision, depending on the impact of the proposed change. I believe that all these things can be solved by the community. The resulting language will not be Okrand's Klingon anymore, and it will be disappointing, but we should be able to move on. The new Klingon could be compared to eg. Latin. There is the historical Latin, and then there is a new Latin that the scientific community, the Vatican and other groups have expanded to cover new concepts that didn't exist when Latin was a living language. Iikka "fergusq" Hauhio https://klingonia.fi ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Sunday, December 26th, 2021 at 13.48, mayqel qunen'oS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
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Returning to the original subject, there's the matter of objectivity of such a committee which needs to be discussed.
A fan asks for a word, and the committee responds that such a word is unnecessary. But one can wonder:
1. If a member of that committee is hired by lets say a software company, in order to translate something for them, and a new word is needed, then what will that committee member think of first? The needs of the language, or the needs of his bank account? 2. Would someone who's into klingon professionaly accept to join such a committee in the first place, if the prerequisite was not to use klingon professionaly, in order to ensure his objectivity? 3. Any member of such a commitee could deny the request of an simple, ordinary fan. But if another member of the same committee wanted a word, then would the other members deny the request of their buddies? Because chances are that the people of that committee would already know each other for decades.
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