On 6/10/2017 4:47 PM, Lieven wrote:
Am 10.06.2017 um 18:08 schrieb DloraH:
On Fri, 2017-06-09 at 21:58 +0200, Lieven wrote:
Am 09.06.2017 um 21:03 schrieb SuStel:
Oh sure. I'm not saying that an SAO isn't two sentences. It clearly is. I'm saying that it's a sentence composed of sentences. It's both one sentence and two.
Since a verb using a sentence as object creates a new sentence, I think it's very clear that such a SAO-sentence can be the SAO in another sentence.
{targh HoH vav DaneH 'e' vIyaj net Sov.} One knows that I understand you want your father to kill the targ.
[[[[targh HoH vav] DaneH] 'e' vIyaj] net Sov.] [[[[the father kills the targ] you want that] I understand that] one knows it]
But now add an adverbial to each sentence.
That sounds like a true challenge. Theoretically, it should be nested like macros do in software, but that would look very strange:
{reH targh HoH vav} "father always kills targ"
DaH {reH targh HoH vav} 'e' vISov Now I know that "father always kills targ"
I'm not sure that is based on anything canon.
Your sentence would properly be *reH targh HoH vav DaH 'e' vISov.* One issue you'll often run into is that you have to be able to tell that the adverbial/syntactic noun/time expression at the front applies to the entire construction, rather than just the first sub-sentence. We have an example of this in /paq'batlh:/*ghIq pum 'e' mev*//which only makes sense as /then, he stops falling./ The *ghIq* applies to *pum 'e' mev,* not just the *pum.* The sentence could have been written *pum ghIq 'e' mev,* but for some reason it wasn't. My guess is that *pum 'e' mev* was so small and tightly integrated it was thought of as a single unit. -- SuStel http://trimboli.name