Am 10.06.2017 um 18:08 schrieb DloraH:
On Fri, 2017-06-09 at 21:58 +0200, Lieven wrote:
Am 09.06.2017 um 21:03 schrieb SuStel:
Oh sure. I'm not saying that an SAO isn't two sentences. It clearly is.
I'm saying that it's a sentence composed of sentences. It's both one
sentence and two.
Since a verb using a sentence as object creates a new sentence, I think
it's very clear that such a SAO-sentence can be the SAO in another sentence.
{targh HoH vav DaneH 'e' vIyaj net Sov.}
One knows that I understand you want your father to kill the targ.
[[[[targh HoH vav] DaneH] 'e' vIyaj] net Sov.]
[[[[the father kills the targ] you want that] I understand that] one
knows it]
But now add an adverbial to each sentence.
That sounds like a true challenge. Theoretically, it should be nested like macros do in software, but that would look very strange:
{reH targh HoH vav}
"father always kills targ"
DaH {reH targh HoH vav} 'e' vISov
Now I know that "father always kills targ"
I'm not sure that is based on anything canon.
Your sentence would properly be reH targh HoH vav DaH 'e' vISov.
One issue you'll often run into is that you have to be able to tell that the adverbial/syntactic noun/time expression at the front applies to the entire construction, rather than just the first sub-sentence. We have an example of this in paq'batlh: ghIq pum 'e' mev which only makes sense as then, he stops falling. The ghIq applies to pum 'e' mev, not just the pum. The sentence could have been written pum ghIq 'e' mev, but for some reason it wasn't. My guess is that pum 'e' mev was so small and tightly integrated it was thought of as a single unit.
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