Although they don’t really add to SuStel’s explanation, here are more examples of {nI’} "be long, lengthy (duration)" FYI: nI' DaHjaj Today is long. (st.k 6/29/1997) nI'be' yInmaj 'ach wovqu' Our lives burn short and bright. (Anthem) Qobbogh may' nI' long and dangerous battle (PB) [Does anyone have the full verse + translation?] When wondering about verbs, also check how the antonym (if any) is used. Examples of {ngaj} “be short (in duration)” : ngaj ram the night is short (KGT) DaHjaj ngab wa' rep. ngajmo' jajvam, nom bIlopnIS [untranslated] (MO to Lieven regarding Daylight Savings Time, 3/29/2015) -- Voragh ________________________________________________________________ From: tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org> On Behalf Of SuStel On 7/1/2021 8:16 AM, mayqel qunen'oS wrote: There's the verb {nI'} "be long, lengthy (duration)"; so the question is "what does it take as a subject"? A little bird told me, that there's the paq'batlh example of {Qobbogh may' nI' jun}, which shows that the {nI'} *can* take an event as a subject. So, so far so good.. But this led me to wonder.. Could the verb {nI'} take as a subject the noun {poH}? Yes, it absolutely can, because it has been used adjectivally: poH nI' long time (KGT). It has been used other times: yIn nI' yISIQ 'ej yIchep Live long and prosper (Radio Times) A yIn is neither an event nor a time period. nI' jajvam This day is long. (klingonska.org/canon/1997-06-29d-news.txt<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/klingonska.org/canon/1997-06-29d-news.txt__;!!BpyFHLRN4TMTrA!pS2WyX5zGRLu3QXYSgOQTYwBiqVy9XKf2mC-Tp9QzsQVrQqTW10izAco-Vqm9_ovf04$>) nI' ram The night is long. (KGT) A day or a night might be an event or a time period, depending on how you look at it. It seems clear to me that anything that might exist over a long duration, including time itself, can be described as nI'. And if yes, then what would be the difference between {poH nI'} and {poH vItlh}? vItlh is a very general verb that could be talking about the quantity or intensity of anything measurable; nI' is specifically about duration only. Your question is like asking what the difference is between a long time and a great amount of time. The latter only gets at its point indirectly. -- SuStel http://trimboli.name<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/trimboli.name__;!!BpyFHLRN4TMTrA!pS2WyX5zGRLu3QXYSgOQTYwBiqVy9XKf2mC-Tp9QzsQVrQqTW10izAco-Vqm292AtdY$>