Summary: - new word {yI'var} = "therapy" - difference between {DIng} and {jIr} clarified - expanded meaning of {yer ghajwI' chaw'} Hello my dear friends, during a conversation with Marc Okrand, he has revealed some interesting details on some words, even giving us one new useful word. The entire message is also archived on qepHom.de: http://www.qephom.de/e/message_from_maltz_210322_another_project.html -- begin of message -------------------------------------------- Hi, Lieven — Okay.... here we go... ------------ LL: "partner" - Can {qoch} really work as a "business partner"? It sounds weird to me. MO: Thinking like a Klingon, will making use of {boq} ("alliance, coalition" / "ally with") work? ----------- LL: "therapy" - In the sense of "a procedure to heal somebody". I'm confused that I'm not finding anything. Of course I could say {rachmeH mIw}, but maybe there's an option? The sentence is something like using a name "The Dr-Maltz-Therapy will be successful" but also describing the method: "We present to you the fluoride-therapy." or "the magnetic therapy" or "ultraviolet light therapy" and so on. MO: Perhaps you can just go with {X mIw}, where X is fluoride, magnet, ultraviolet light, etc., as long as it will always be clear from context that {mIw} refers to a health/therapeutic procedure or treatment. If context isn't enough to make things clear, then I'll bother Maltz some more. LL: This could be confusing with the existing word {porgh mIw}, whatever that could be. MO: I don't know what "body therapy" would be either, but I do see how {porgh mIw} could make this confusing. So instead of using {mIw}, go with {yI'var} "treatment, therapy." ----------- LL: What is the difference between {jIr} and {DIng}? MO: Though there's some overlap, {DIng} is generally used for things spinning or rotating continuously or for a long time, while {jIr} is used when the thing rotates partially or once or for a few times. (So you'd use {jIr} or {jIrmoH} for what you might be doing with the steering wheel while the car's tires {DIng}.) ----------- LL: Do I understand correctly that {pIn} means "boss" as in the opposite of employee? "My boss tells me what to do". Right? MO: The short answer is yes, but there doesn't have to be an employer-employee relationship. The {pIn} is the person in charge of something or in control of something. ----------- LL: "patented" as in "The company has unique and patented products." MO: Believe it or not, you can use {yer ghajwI' chaw'}. In Klingon Monopoly, this was used for "title deed," but it can apply to things other than land or property or real estate — it just means the legally recognized right to control something (land, yes, but also technology and perhaps other things). It is often shortened to {yer chaw'}. {yer chaw'}, of course, is a noun. Verbs commonly used when {yer chaw'} is the object are {Suq}, {ghaj}, and even {much}. ----------- LL: "support" - {ngaq} is labeled as "military term" in TKD. Is there a different noun for mental support, as in getting help from "software support" or "personal support"? MO: {boQ} could work. Maybe also {vuy} "be helpful, supportive." ----------- LL: "health" as a noun. This is not a verb in a sentence, it talks about "health products", "personal health" and "Health is important", even stands alone "health". MO: Have you tried wrestling with {pIv} (and constructing short phrases)? [After talking about this, we agreed that {porgh Dotlh} is a good solution for this, although it's not a direct translation for "health".] ----------- LL: product: - A thing that is produced and then sold. The company has several "products". MO: How about {vIqraq}? {vIqraq} is defined as "artifact, work of art," but it's further clarified as: "handicraft, gizmo, gadget, contraption, machine, device, etc. That is, it refers to something manufactured or made." So I think it could be used for a "product" (assuming the product was something physical). ----------- It's not the middle of the night, but, as usual, if you see any typos or anything else weird, let me know. - Marc -- end of message -------------------------------------------- In addition to the above, we talked on the phone to find some solutions. - To talk about a motorcycle, Okrand confirmed that this counts as a land vehicle, i.e. a {puH Duj}. Although a motorcycle looks like a bike, you cannot say {qam Do Duj} because it definitely goes faster than {qam Do}. He accepted my wording {cha' rutlh puH Duj} as "Yes, you can say that". In addition to that, {SeD} would be the verb for riding/driving a motorcycle. - A long and complicated discussion about what would be the best verb for controlling/using a device ended with Okrand's suggestion that {lo'} is probably the most useful verb, avoiding the entire discussion. -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.tlhInganHol.com http://klingon.wiki/En/Maltz