More examples: mIch 'elpu' jay' They've entered the @#$% sector! (TKD) Hevetlh wIghoSchugh veH tIn wI'el maH'e' that course will take us into the [Great] Barrier as well! (ST5) ghe'tor 'el qeylIS Kahless enters Gre'thor (PB) ghe'tor vegh Duj Suto'vo'qor lojmItmey 'el Duj The barge went through Gre'thor Into the gates of Sto-vo-kor (PB) vavlI' loDnI'lI' je DaSammeH ghe'tor Da'elmo' 'ej Damejmo' QeHchoH qa'pu' vaj lubIjlu' They will pay for the anger You caused by entering and leaving, Gre'thor in search of your kin. (PB) QaQ qeylIS Duj ghe'tor 'elmeH yapbe' may' 'e' Sovchu' Kahless knows by instinct A fight will not suffice To enter the land of the dead. (PB) ghe'tor Da'elta' 'ej lojmItmeyvo' Damejta' 'ach bIrIQbe'mo' SoH neH Since you are the only one Who ever entered Gre'thor, And left the gates unharmed (PB) veng ‘elDI’ ghaH pawpa’ ghaH’e’ paw lutDaj ‘e’ Sov qeylIS Upon entering the city, Kahless knows his tale Has preceded him. (PB) and possibly: tlhIngan wo' Daq'a' bo'elpu' You have entered the jurisdiction of the Klingon Empire. (ST11 deleted line?) -- Voragh Ca'Non Master of the Klingons From: tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org> On Behalf Of nIqolay Q On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 10:10 AM mayqel qunen'oS <mihkoun@gmail.com<mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com>> wrote: One can {'el} a house; but could he {'el} a {Deb Daq} (the location of a desert) ? Is the {'el} only to be used, for {'el}ing enclosed places ? Klingon Monopoly has neHmaH Da'el net tu' Caught breaching the Neutral Zone. The Neutral Zone has boundaries, but they're not walls or closed-in areas. So presumably you can use 'el with something that's not enclosed. Deb 'el enter a desert seems fine to me.