"Values" can mean *"*Principles or standards of behaviour; one's judgement of what is important in life." (OED: https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/value) {potlh} would imply the second half of that definition: things that are important to Klingon families. Something like {ghob} "ethics, virtue" might also work, but if you look at the rest of the card ( http://klingonska.org/canon/sbx-s13.html), it mentions things that might not fall under "ethics" per se, such as the value of the family name. On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 11:26 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
kbop title:
tlhIngan toQDuj Duj De' potlh klingon bird of prey general specifications
Isn't here the {Duj} after the {toQDuj} redundant/weird/unnecessary ? {toQDuj} by itself means "bird of prey vessel"; so why place a {Duj} after it ?
S13 title:
tlhIngan qorDu' potlh Klingon Family Values
I can't understand how the english translation results from this klingon sentence. All I get is "something consequential/important of klingon family".
qunnoq
On Aug 17, 2017 6:10 PM, "Steven Boozer" <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:
Possibly it's military jargon. It is an odd phrase, but I understand {potlh De'} as an "announcement" or a flash alert. (IIRC the message was about General Koord being taken hostage on Nimbus III. )
Okrand has used {De' potlh} "important data/information" twice AFAIK:
tlhIngan toQDuj Duj De' potlh Klingon Bird of Prey General Specifications (KBoP title)
Marc Okrand jIH. De' potlh vIlab. I am Marc Okrand and I bring you an important message. ('U'-MTK)
and the noun {potlh} "consequential thing, something important" once:
tlhIngan qorDu' potlh Klingon Family Values (S13 title)
After ST5 came out, {QIn} "message" appeared in KGT and was subsequently used on the special reissue ST3 DVD case, though I don't know whether Okrand was involved:
Qugh la'vaD QIn pav [Urgent message for Commander Kruge. (untranslated) ]
--Voragh
-----Original Message----- From: Lieven
While look at some canon phrases, I stumbled over a phrase from ST5:
{yo'SeH yaHnIvvo' potlh De' wIHevtaH.} "We are receiving a priority message from Operations Command."
I would have said {De' potlh} "important data" here. Is this an error, or is it just not much difference between "important data" and "data about something important"? _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org
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