Thought I would let people here know, since I have sort of acted on my own on this. I've submitted another paper to the Unicode Consortium asking to encode pIqaD finally: http://www.unicode.org/L2/L2016/16329-piqad-returns.pdf They always said it wasn't encoded because people weren't using it: I disprove that claim in the document. The discussion on the mailing list there is starting to heat up again; this time they're saying that there are problems with Paramount's copyright and all, but that's also not relevant, and even if it is, they should decide whether or not to encode and *then* we'll worry about difficulties carrying that out. Anyway, just informing folks. I've been talking to various UTC members, and the official UTC meeting is this week or next week or something, so it will be brought up then and they'll probably have at least some sort of response after that. I'm not going to let them off the hook without at least some *sensible* answer and a path forward (and an explanation as to why the Tolkien alphabets, which apparently may also have copyright issues, are on the Roadmap, even if they aren't encoded, while pIqaD is not only not on the roadmap, but given as an example on the "Not on the Roadmap" page as something not worthy of being there.) Just FYI. ~mark