It's worth noting that so do «wo' DevtaHjaj ghawran» and «wo' ghawran DevtaHjaj», which are used in KGT to illustrate toast grammar.
As you say, these are exceptions used in toasts, so that doesn't count.
I don't believe the first example is meant to be an exception; according to KGT: "If uttered as a wish, hope, or aspiration - but not as a toast - the normal word order applies: {wo' DevtaHjaj ghawran} ("May Gowron continue to lead the empire")." It might still be an error, though. Personally, I like to use phrases such as {X-ta'jaj X-taHbogh Hoch.} to wish people success. I'm fine with those being {mu'mey ru'}, though.
Or you just turn on the Klingon subtitles to check the spelling. :-)
Did you have access to the script for the Klingon lines? I was under the impression you had to listen and transcribe. ________________________________________ From: tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org> on behalf of Lieven <levinius@gmx.de> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 08:39 To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Marc Okrand talking about DSC (spoilerfree) Am 27.09.2017 um 03:27 schrieb Felix Malmenbeck:
It's worth noting that so do «wo' DevtaHjaj ghawran» and «wo' ghawran DevtaHjaj», which are used in KGT to illustrate toast grammar.
As you say, these are exceptions used in toasts, so that doesn't count.
...and an even stronger indication is that when I transcribed the phrase as *tlhIngan maHtaHjaj* earlier this year, Qov pointed out the vs7 + -jaj rule to me. Now that we know she wrote it, that probably means there should indeed be a space in there :P
Or you just turn on the Klingon subtitles to check the spelling. :-) -- Lieven L. Litaer aka Quvar valer 'utlh Grammarian of the KLI http://www.facebook.com/Klingonteacher http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/StarTrekDiscovery _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org