On 10/27/2021 8:05 AM, mayqel qunen'oS wrote:
Suppose we want to say:
"In order that something doesn't move the glass, so that the coffee inside won't spill, a special base can be used".
One option is to write:
HIvje' vIHmoHbe'lu'meH, 'ej qa'vIn Qoy'moHbe'lu'meH, ngaDmoHwI' le' lo'lu'.
But I wonder.. Couldn't we use {vaj} instead of {'ej}?
HIvje' vIHmoHbe'lu'meH, vaj qa'vIn Qoy'moHbe'lu'meH, ngaDmoHwI' le' lo'lu'.
In the first option the exact meaning is "... and in order that the coffee doesn't spill", while on the second option the meaning is "... so that the coffee doesn't spill".
Granted, not much of a difference either way, but I wonder if there could be any argument against "joining" {-meH} clauses with {vaj}.
Only the argument that *vaj* is not a conjunction. The second phrase you wrote isn't /so that the coffee doesn't spill;/ it's /so that in order that the coffee doesn't spill./ It's a bit convoluted. I think this comes from your liberal splicing of parenthetical phrases in the middle of sentences. If understood as a parenthetical phrase, it makes sense, though TKD doesn't offer any rules for parenthetical phrases and canonical examples of them are hard to come by. I might split this into two sentences. *HIvje' vIHmoHbe'lu'meH, ngaDmoHwI' le' lo'lu'. Qoy' qa'vIn 'e' bot. */In order for the glass not to move, a special stabilizer is used. It prevents the coffee from spilling./ -- SuStel http://trimboli.name